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Looking for Paradise....
13 years ago, August 22nd 2006 No: 1 Msg: #7124  
Hi, hopefully someone can help me with my next vacation. My boyfriend and I are looking for (you guessed!) Paradise. Basically, blue water, private beach, fresh fruit, private living ON the beach. I guess you can say a private little bungalow with accomodations. We're definitly NOT looking for any big resort/all-inclusive/huge pools with a million lounge chairs. Something very quiet, private and relaxing. But of course, there's a line. I don't wan't to fend for myself and climb trees for coconuts or anything. Something somewhat monitored. Does NOT have to be in the Caribbean, I just had to pick a continent for the thread! Anywhere in the world where it is hot in February. So does this place really exist, or only in our heads? Reply to this

13 years ago, August 22nd 2006 No: 2 Msg: #7147  
Have you considered looking into places like the Seychelle Islands off the coast of East Africa? It's one of the places that not many people know about except Europeans as it's a bit easier to get to for them. I'm taking a group there next year to go sailing. I've looked at some incredible photos and it has one of the top 10 beaches in the world on one of the islands. I've been referred to as the Galapagos of the Indian Ocean. It has some of the the worlds oldest and largest tortoises, some the size of a coffee table. There are pristine beaches and most have some type of villa, bungalow or property for rent. These islands can be pricey in a way but you can get accommodations to where you can fix some of your own meals as well as eat out. One of the islands doesn't even have cars on it. You have to get around by bicycle or ox cart! It's romantic as well. All of the travel forums I've read on this destinaton have someone talking about honeymooning there. It's untouched and has a unique flavor mixture of French, African and Creole in the language, and cooking. Check it out on their tourist board link http://www.seychelles.com/en/home/index.php Good luck in your hunt. Travelbum Reply to this

13 years ago, August 24th 2006 No: 3 Msg: #7173  
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Something like this photo? or it's bigger brother.

The Perhentian Islands in Malaysia are some of my favourites... Besar is the quieter one...

Then I went over to Borneo and found places that are even more undisturbed, then there are the Thai Islands, Koh Lak, Phi Phi, Phangnan, Tao, Chang - all have beaches or smaller islands that are like you describe away from the popular backpacker hangouts - and there are even more paradises in Indonesia.

Then we have Fiji.... the list goes on and on 😊
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13 years ago, August 24th 2006 No: 4 Msg: #7174  
Don't forget the Andaman Islands Reply to this

13 years ago, August 26th 2006 No: 5 Msg: #7208  
In Koh phi phi in Thailand (which I didnt find so remote or undisturbed in general?) You can go to the other side of the island by taxiboat, to a little smaller beach called Rantee beach. When I was there, only one place to live, bungalows on the beach and one "restaurant" on the beach. I think all in all there is rooms for maybe 10 people, so you will definitely have the place somewhat to yourselves. The guys working in the restaurant are extremely friendly and funny and after 22 at night, there is no electricity or cold bears. (The iceblock they get in the morning is melted by then). You can also hike across the island - there is a trail and a view post on the top - its brilliant!
To me this was paradise... I know that the place was hit by the tsunami, but I am almost certain that they are up and running again, and could probably need the support.

I thought of another important question - should we share our "secrets" of places we've been - the ones that are remote and untouched by tourism?? Or better to leave them undisturbed untill the next tourist discovers it by chance? Personally I think it depends on wether the locals want more or less people there....

Sara

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13 years ago, September 3rd 2006 No: 6 Msg: #7352  
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Ahh yes...paradise. (sigh)

A few ideas from my experiences:

1) The Galapagos Islands -- Spectacular, otherworldly scenery, countless world-class beaches, strange up-close wildlife, and a laid-back, mellow feel! Contrary to popular belief, not everyone sees the Galapagos on guided tours; there are islands that are great for chilling (and visiting independently), like Isla Isabela for instance.
Two Weeks in the Galapagos

2) Peninsular Malaysia -- I second Ali with this one. I haven't been to Pulau Perhentian, but I did enjoy Pulau Tioman to the South. The Perhentians are supposed to be more relaxed, but the Tioman Islands are much more mountainous (which I prefer). Also, the locals were extremely friendly people.
Pulau Tioman!

3) Bornean Malaysia -- There are spectacular islands near Semporna, Sabah. Pulau Sipadan has at least one scuba dive site that is considered top 10 in the world--huge dropoffs right offshore, extensive corals, strange small fish, massive predatory fish, and sharks, sharks, sharks! Pulau Sibuan is beautiful for a day trip. I think there's potential for amazing island hopping, and if you're adventurous, there's definitely potential for a real Robinson Crusoe experience.
Diving Pulau Sipadan

And some on the life-list -- the Marquesas islands (the ultimate destination, if you've got time and money), Palau (again expensive, but unbeatable for diving), and the Mergui Archipelago of Myanmar.

As for more masochistic paradises, I vote for tramping through virgin Sumatran jungle or climbing glaciated peaks in Bolivia...but that's a whole different story.

Poz
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13 years ago, September 3rd 2006 No: 7 Msg: #7362  
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Well paradise is defferent to different people. The paradise you described obviously is the tropical beach paradise. The one I am going to suggest might be not EXACTLY what your envisioning but to me it is complete paradise.

The tiny little town of Vang Vieng in Laos is possibly one of my favourite places for relaxing on earth. At the foot of breathtaking tropical mountains and sitting on the edge of the gorgeous Nam Song River, Vang Vieng is stunning. Laos is one of the poorest countries on earth and the infastructre is a little rough but that doesn't seem to bother the locals who are some of the friendliest I have ever met. There are a range of very good quality accomodations that are dirt cheap, my mate and I payed $2 each a night in Vang Vieng. There is a small bar on an island sitting in the middle of the Nam Song River that is accessible by a rickerty woodern bridge. There are about 4 hammocks where you can kick back with a drink and indulge in the views of the mountains and the river. You will see people floating down the river in big rubber tubes. This is Vang Vieng's most famous activity. Starting further up stream, you get dropped off with your tube and you casually float down the river. Every short distance there is a "bar" (or rather a small area where locals have beer for sale) they will pull you in by long woodern sticks. Some bars have swings into the river and other activites available. All the time you are dwarfed by the craggy mountians towering above you. There are other activites like hikes into the mountains where numerous caves await you or you could hire a bike for next to nothing and take a scenic ride around town. The beauty is that Vang Vieng is just a few hours from both the capital Vientiane and the other major town Luang Prabang. Both are very relaxing themselves and home to a whole host of temples and magnificent culture. Plus, you would most likely come from or end up in Thailand which has world famous beaches.

So there might not be a beach and it may not be the usual stereotypical paradise. However, if your after something a bit different, the friendliest locals you could ever meet, something dirt cheap and a wonderful culture, Vang Vieng and Laos is paradise to me.

If you wanna see more, you can check out my blog here. http://www.travelblog.org/Asia/Laos/Vang-Vieng/blog-24966.html
and here
http://www.travelblog.org/Asia/Laos/Luang-Prabang/blog-25692.html

ENJOY!
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13 years ago, September 4th 2006 No: 8 Msg: #7372  
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I'd recommend Palawan in the Philippines, either in El Nido or Port Barton.

In front of El Nido is the Bacuit Archipelago (see added pictures) with about a hundreds beautiful islands, many with perfect white-sand beaches. When I was there, I toured the island in a small boat and my guide told me there was an american couple who had been living on a beach hut on one of the island for a month. He also showed a few islands that were privately owned. So it is possible to do what you want to do in there for sure, no idea of the costs involved though. There are also 3 beach resorts scattered through the archipelago if you want more something more comfortable.

I think this would be exactly what you're looking for. Great quiet beaches but also decent infrastructure nearby. You could live alone on a beach on an island but hail a fishing boat to go to El Nido (30-60 minutes away, maximum) and enjoy some decent meal/drink or a conversation with travellers/locals if you feel like it.

I haven't been to Port Barton but I've heard very good things about it. Very laid back and beautiful beaches.




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13 years ago, September 16th 2006 No: 9 Msg: #7504  
Phu Quoc off the South West coast of Vietnam....not sure about high season but at this time of the year we rarely saw other tourists. We had entire white sand beaches to ourselves, ate glorious seafood, stayed on the beach in a cheap bungalow with balconies and hammocks. We are currently travelling around south east Asia and this is as close to heaven as we found. There are I believe only 2 posh resorts on the island and apparently a cruise ship comes in on Saturdays (we saw none of this...again maybe because it was low season). You can fly from HCMC (Saigon) for about $50 if you are short on time or tour the Mekong Delta and catch a ferry (Hydrofoil) from Rach Gia. Reply to this

13 years ago, September 20th 2006 No: 10 Msg: #7543  
If you want beautiful beach with a lot of tourists, I think south east Asia nocks the socks of the carribean, but if you want a more secluded experience, go for some unheard island in the pacific or the islands outside Africa like Sao Tomé et Princippe, the Seychelles, the Comorres, Madagascar, Cabo Verde or try some of the beaches in West Africa. Sierra Leone's got great beach, so do Cote' d'Ivoire and Ghana, but probably the most beautiful one's youll find in Guinea-Bissaus archipelago... Reply to this

12 years ago, December 6th 2006 No: 11 Msg: #8969  
Paradise is being home at Christmas with mum and dad. Having a real cup of English tea. Watching the Bond film on Christmas Day. Having a real good portion of fish and chips with mushy peas. Being in my favourite country pub with my best mates from schooldays....

When you've been traveling 20 years to over 70 countries, looking for paradise..... you end up finding it where you first started out from - home.
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12 years ago, December 6th 2006 No: 12 Msg: #8970  
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Ohhhhh...poor Bikepacker, "traveling for 20 years to over 70 countries, looking for paradise....."

Sounds like a tough life. :-) Reply to this

12 years ago, December 6th 2006 No: 13 Msg: #8974  
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Surely some one must have said Bali ... Reply to this

12 years ago, January 27th 2007 No: 14 Msg: #10276  
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of course there're a lot! but if you're looking somwhere about europe and middle east...
check this out.. Reply to this

12 years ago, February 25th 2007 No: 15 Msg: #11107  
hey, Kenya!

Paradise as paradise was before everything got all messed up! Reply to this

12 years ago, March 2nd 2007 No: 16 Msg: #11288  

Mafia in Myrtle Beach



Once upon a time, in the 1960s, paradise was truly Myrtle Beach. Unfortunately, like Atlantic City, the syndicate moved in. In the 1950s, Papa Clay Brittain, started what is today the Myrtle Beach Mafia. His son, Matthew is now head of the family and his other son David, runs the Myrtle Beach Chamber of Commerce.

The Brittain syndicate has truly ruined the wonderful family image of Myrtle Beach and they now run everything from Golf Holiday, to the Myrtle Beach Chamber, to the hotel industry, to every paid politician.

Paradise is truly lost.

This week, the family began strong arming independents to push travel sites like Expedia, Hotels.com, Orbitz, Priceline, Cheap Tickets, and others out of the area.

If you were ever there in decades past, at least you have memories.


Fred

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12 years ago, July 2nd 2007 No: 17 Msg: #15892  
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Well, "paradise" is different to each person, I am the owner of a Tour Operator in Costa Rica www.costaricadelights.com, and for me Costa Rica is a great paradise, and believe we can find that place for you, specially on the Pacific side of Costa Rica.
Contact us (meche@costaricadelights.com) , and I will be more than happy to assit you in your looking for paradise... Reply to this

12 years ago, July 3rd 2007 No: 18 Msg: #15971  
I think it's not only the place that you visit, but who you travel with. Paradise for me is being with my mate in a tropical setting (beach, island, boating, etc.). Even if it's as crowded as can be, it's alone time with eachother. Listening to music as we lounge and sip margaritas. That's my paradise! Reply to this

12 years ago, July 4th 2007 No: 19 Msg: #16006  
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I agree with you the Andaman Islands is defiantly a "paradise".


Thanks,
John
www.travelplans.tv
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12 years ago, July 10th 2007 No: 20 Msg: #16316  
My husband and I loved staying at Hard Rock Cottages on Siquijor, Philippines. The whole resort only has 4 cottages and we were the only guests when we visited. However, I"m not sure about the weather in Feb.... The water was super fab, but as you can see from the pic there isn't a sandy beach, but a private balconey. At low tide there is sand, but it's too wet to lie your towel down and sunbake.

Hard Rock Cottages
Our Blog: The Sky's On Fire!

I think to get your private beach, no matter what country or region you choose, you're going to have to go a little farther off the beaten track.

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