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Thai to Angkor Wat

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Thailand to Angkor Wat
14 years ago, March 5th 2010 No: 1 Msg: #105799  
While in Thailand I would like to make a quick trip to Angkor Wat in Cambodia to take photos of the temples then travel back to continue my holiday in Thailand. Any ideas or experiences ? Thanks. Reply to this

14 years ago, March 6th 2010 No: 2 Msg: #105847  
Hello Jamie

I did the same thing back in August 2008 - and I chose to fly from Bangkok to Siem Reap only because of the stories I'd heard about the appalling state of the roads once you cross the border into Cambodia. If you do need to save money and take the road journey, then you may want to think about one way by road and flight back.

As for the flight on Bangkok Airways which flies to Siem Reap, even though they are a small airline, I was very impressed with the level of service. Reply to this

14 years ago, March 6th 2010 No: 3 Msg: #105869  
I agree with Shane.
But if you want to do it in an easy way there are lots of travel agencies who are doing 3-4 or more days trips from Bangkok by the road and stop by different places. It's worth it to stop first in Phnom Penh to see the National Museum where you can see all the craft work from the temples of Angkor Wat.
And you can also see the S-21 "security center"... and lot more other.
I hope you'll be able to make it. Have a safe journey and enjoy!!! Reply to this

14 years ago, March 6th 2010 No: 4 Msg: #105890  
I heard the road was finished so it was a lot quicker now.

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14 years ago, March 6th 2010 No: 5 Msg: #105898  
Thanks for the info guys. I did a little search on Angkor Wat and found a good site http://www.talesofasia.com/cambodia-overland-bkksr-intro.htm about travel by road.
It basically said the road has been paved and takes between 6 and 9 hours ( Bangkok to Siem Reap by way of Poipet / Aranyaprathet ). Tourist bus ticket from Khao San Road in Bangkok come with a major warning about scams. The recommended way is private car or metered taxi etc. Just be careful of the package deal scams from so called travel agents on tourist busses. Reply to this

14 years ago, March 7th 2010 No: 6 Msg: #105915  
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Hiii Mullet;

i think 90% of the travel agencies in Kho San road deals with these scam buses ! I was there during 2005, and I have entered 4 travel agencies to buy a ticket but i was always telling them "if you put me with a scam bus then i will complain to Toursit Police when i come back" (The prices were different starting from 500 TB and up to 900 TB), So they were always kicking me out and got angry about it and told me "Go and buy from another travel agency".

The last travel agency I bought my ticket from (I got it for 350 TB) i think the lady there she was very new, and she was supporting me when i told her i will complain if anything goes wrong, and she was like Yah sure Sir you can , and she gave me the business card and all the details about the agency. but at the end i was in the scam bus, hehehe.

But Anyway what will happen with the scam buses and what you shall do:

1) They stopped us before the Thai - Cambodia border just 5 KM and asked us to have lunch. A beautiful lady will come and will tell the toursit that VISA fee in the border has been changed and it increased up to 1300 THB. the VISA there actually is 20 USD but the police will accpet only 25 USD. You can ignore the lady and just pay direct in the border.

2) When u reach Thai border, a Cambodian guide will appear and he will give alot of good advices. Take his advices and dont give him a trust after crossing the border.

3) After crossing the Cambodian border, they will put u in their office and split the tourist into two buses. Just next to the office ,,, there is a money exchanger. The guide will come to the tourist and tell them "In Cambodia they dont except USD and THB, So please change your cash before we leave". During that time; 1USD = 4000 Real but in that Money exchanger i think if iam not mistaken it was 1USD = 3300 Real.

4) In the way; the guide was keep telling the tourist that; "we have to take you to the office to make sure all the tourist have reached". Toursit has rejected and after a big fight in the bus, he promised the tourist to take them to Siam Reap downtown. once we reached the "office" (Which is their Guest house); he switched off the bus and sadi " If you want to sleep get in to this guest house, otherwise sleep in the bus". Well were lucky to find a tuk tuk driver out side the guest house at 3 AM in the morning, who took us to the downtown, which we dicovered it was far away from their guest house. But Anyhow i got to know from another tourist who get in to the guest house, the price was normal 3 USD per night. But the other services was so expensive !

By the way, i have left my guest house in KoSan raod at 6 AM and reach Siam Reap at 3 AM next day. 21 hours !!!!

please note that all the details i have provided relate to the year 2005 when i have been to Cambodia .. I dont knowhow is the situation there. According to you the road is ready, then I hope there will be no problems.


Siam Reap is beautiful, so Enjoy your trip. Reply to this

14 years ago, March 7th 2010 No: 7 Msg: #105921  
Hi Mullet,

If I would be you I would go from Bangkok to Phnom Penh by a travel agency and after 1 or 2 days seeing the city would go to Siem Reap. I'm sure you will find any agency in Phnom Phen who would help you to find a bus which is 6 hours bus from Phnom Penh to Siem Reap. The buses are really comfortable. You can your stay in a hotel or you can find many places to stay when you arrive. There are planty small accommodations around. I would not book a whole tour from Bangkok to Siem Reap... as you read Rays comment - you never know what you are going to end up with.
Hope I could help,
Cheers,
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14 years ago, March 8th 2010 No: 8 Msg: #105994  
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I did this in March 2009, and as Rat on the Road says, the road was good all the way then, so don't worry about that. We avoided the whole Khao San scam shit by simply taking the regular public bus to the border town (Aranyaprathet). We relied on the info given on that tales of asia page, and that gave us a pretty smooth journey.

Started by taking the taxi to the northern bus terminal aka Morchit bus terminal (not the same as morchit sky train station, the bus terminal is apparently really named Chatachuck or something, but that name is not used nor known by Thais for some reason...). We took the bus early to reach the border before the scam buses hoping that would get us through the border checking faster. No such luck though as apparently we traveled on a Thai holiday, so all the Thai were going to Cambodia to gamble. YAY!

Anywho, the first small issues occurred between Aranyaprathet and the border. Some lady with a tuk-tuk told us she would take us to the border for 80 bath, but we soon realized that was not her plan at all. She took us first to the Cambodian "Consulate" to get our Visa where we were met by very official looking uniformed Cambodian "Consulate" workers. That told us we had to get our Visa there before going to the border. (For all I know this really was a genuine Cambodian Consulate). Just refuse to get out of the tuk-tuk and say you wont pay anything unless the driver takes you directly to the border. Once at the border beware of pickpockets and wait in line to go through the border formalities. There were helpful people there that wanted to get your visa for you faster (for a fee) but the two we saw going for this didn't go through much faster than us even though it was a real long line that day.

On the Cambodian side you are met by friendly, helpful official looking guides that will soon befriend you and start earning your trust just in time to get to the Cambodian border formalities where he will tell you the price has gone up. (Just fill in the paper, and give that, your passport and 1500 bath to me...) Do not do this. be a stubborn ass and deliver this yourself with $20 to the place they actually give you the visa. They will not readily accept this, and claim the price is $25. Pay the $5 bribe if you wanna support corruption, or be as stubborn as you can (remember this guys are pros, so it wont be easy.) Arguments you can use is that there is a big fucking sign over their head stating tourist visa $20, and that you did go to the embassy in Bangkok the previous day and had the price confirmed. Your best bet is time though. As more people come and you can make them refuse to pay the bribe too they will accept the $20 and hope that the next prey is easier. It will piss them off though so proceed with caution :p

After getting the visa, get it stamped (At least I think this was done another place). Congratulations, you are now in Cambodia! There may be better ways to get from the border to Siem Reap, but we gave in at this time and followed the advice of the (bribe)friendly guides to get on the free bus out to the buss/cab central in the middle of nowhere. You can proceed from there by share-cab which we managed to get for $45 for 3 persons to Siem Reap. They wanted $60 but $45 is still a big rip off. You can probably get a share-taxi for the same distance at a total of $15 or less elsewhere in Cambodia. Meh, fuck it. It was a bus running from the same place later in the day, but we didn't wanna wait around for a sucky bus which they wouldn't even guarantee us a spot on.

With just a minor issue when the hood of the car blew of and hitting the windshield, the cab delivered us safely to Siem Reap where we got a free moto (included in the price when you pay for the taxi) that drove us to a guest house someone recommended. And when we realized this was a bit expensive took us to the next one without complaining or wanting any pay. The first display of the genuine Cambodian friendliness that we later were to see so much of. Nice!


All in all it was a nice trip, and the hassle at the border wasn't really that bad. If you are prepared and know what you are in for and take it with a laugh its really just a funny experience.

And one last thing, do not exchange you money. ATMs in cambodia give out usd for a reason. It is what they use. They use dollar+riel as americans use dollar+cent. 1000 riel doing the job of a quarter. You will be able to use or exchange bath later also and I would guess at a better rate.

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Oh and we went back to Bangkok too, we took a trip to Battambang to do the bamboo train and then Phnom Penh and flew back to Bangkok. The flight from PP to BK was really cheap, and you get a longer visa at the airport than you get at the land border.
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13 years ago, July 13th 2010 No: 9 Msg: #115581  
I did this via train in the Winter 2009.
I stayed with Refill Hostel in Bangkok and they directed me to a train.

The train was very enjoyable in December.
Warm, mildly sunny with a brisk breeze in the air.

I love the sound of trains and the locals take it as public transportation.
It took about 6 hrs. to reach the city near the Thailand and Cambodian border.

I highly recommend it. Reply to this

13 years ago, October 9th 2010 No: 10 Msg: #120724  
I think you better should find a travel agency outside of Kowsan Rd, cause mostly agencies in Kowsan Road are linving of selling to foreignness, cause they think you are not coming back.

I did a tour to Angkor Wat - Siem Riep - Phnom Phen by mini bus(van), full tour, I think we paid around 334 USD /person.

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