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Chinese visa suggestions.

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leaving in March, not entering China until July
14 years ago, January 8th 2010 No: 1 Msg: #98785  
What I have found out:
I can get a visa that is valid for three months for China, and once I enter the country, I can stay for 30 days.

Our situation.
We're leaving Canada on March 7th and starting in Thailand. We will be travelling Thailand, Laos, Cambodia, and Vietnam, for a total time of 4 months before we enter China from the south via Vietnam.

If we apply for a visa for China before we leave, it will expire before we even get there.
Second problem with this, if we could somehow get around it expiring before we even get there, We're planning on much more time then 30 days, our original idea was travel from Vietnam up to Beijing, fly to either South Korea or Japan (we want to visit both countries, for about two weeks each, so total time a month out of China), and then re-enter China via Beijing, and catch the train to Lhasa, spend about a week or so in Tibet, and then take a bus tour to Nepal.

So I was thinking total time from the original entrance date of July 1st (approx.) to our final exit date and entering into Nepal, probably 2 and a half months.

I have seen that there are different visa's available, 3, 6, and 12 months, with single, double and multiple entries. I also have heard that there has been changes with the way Canadians can enter China, I have not heard more then that though so I don't know to what extent.

I have been reading a few forums on entering China, but most where from right before the Olympics in 2008, and from my understanding things have changed quite a bit since then.

So if you have entered China recently, and were able to apply and be accepted for a visa from somewhere other then your home country, or know of any advice, anything would be greatly appreciated!!

I do realize that you need a special permit to enter into Tibet, but I'm more worried about being able to get into China at all, and will start to think a bit more about going into Tibet once I know I can get into China.
Thanks in advance!! Reply to this

14 years ago, January 12th 2010 No: 2 Msg: #99436  
For a uk passport holder ,you don't need a visa to go to Hong Kong / Maccau within 3 months,but you need a visa in advance before you go to mainland China,as your trip takes too long time ,maybe you need a double entry visa to cover it.


Hope it helpful for you! Reply to this

14 years ago, January 13th 2010 No: 3 Msg: #99446  
These days, a lot of people get their visa from Hong Kong. You may actually need two visas if you stay more than one month each time. They have 3 months one entry visa, or you could have a 6 months double entry, but than it will allow you to stay only 30 days each time.

Rules do change from time to time, this is why you need to be cautious. But you will be able to apply for the full range of visas in Hong Kong. You will also be able to apply in Bangkok, Saigon, Hanoi, etc...but they may have a more limited type of visa to apply.

Hope this help,

Peter Reply to this

14 years ago, January 13th 2010 No: 4 Msg: #99575  
Thanks guys. I think we're going to either leave some time in Hanoi to arrange for visa's, or wind up going to Hong Kong, I wouldn't mind it so much but it's apparently very expensive there so most likely Hanoi and get it all sorted. it looks like we're not going to be able to stay in China as long as I was anticipating but that's ok, so much to see in this world and only so much time. Reply to this

14 years ago, January 14th 2010 No: 5 Msg: #99616  
N Posts: 39
Going by land from Hanoi to China? If you are I can tell you about it as I did that last April 😊 Reply to this

14 years ago, January 14th 2010 No: 6 Msg: #99649  
yes we are!! that would be fantastic!! was it hard to do? Scott's a bit worried that it might be dangerous, but I don't think it would be that bad, my cousin did China to Vietnam overland in 2006 (but that was awhile ago so things most likely have changed).
if possible could you email me about your experience? I will pm you my email address!! Reply to this

14 years ago, January 14th 2010 No: 7 Msg: #99683  
Vietnam and China are generally safe...just be very careful of your pockets! Many people are doing it by train and it's pretty easy...and very safe. Reply to this

14 years ago, January 14th 2010 No: 8 Msg: #99692  
N Posts: 39
Here we go then. First of all; Don't Panic. Everything gonna be fine 😊

Then for the disclaimer: Its been a while, so some details may be off. Double check everything.

You can do this in at least two ways. Train or bus. We were thinking train first, but went by bus in the end for some good reason I think. Maybe the train only goes a few days a week? Or did I read somewhere that foreigners were not allowed to cross the boarder by train somewhere? I don't really remember. Anyway, can't help much with train so here comes my How to go by bus from Hanoi to China.

First wake up, get some good breakfast, maybe buy some snack to eat on the way (and water off course). Go back to where you stay, pack up and check out. So far so good. Now get a taxi, your hotel could set you up or just find one on the streets I guess. There are multiple bus stations in Hanoi, so there could be others you could use as well, but we went from the Gia Lam station. It lays across the river from the old quarter, your driver will know.

Now for some fun. You enter the bus station looking confused. (Looking confused is always good, because then someone will help you (or maybe try to steal your stuff...)). Ok, so now you are looking confused and can't figure out where you buy that ticket. You are in a foreign country and you don't speak the language and your visa is running out today. Thats not too cool is it? Back up. First advice: Don't Panic. By now some random looking person should have approached you and is now asking you where you are going. Tell him/her you are going to China/Dong Dang(border town) or Lang Son (closest bigger city, should be possible to arrange further transport from this place if you can't get directly to the border). Now this person will take you out of the bus station and show you the minibus that will drive you. This looks a bit shady, so you ask the driver how much it costs and he tells you $20 each. Whoa! Luckily you read somewhere that the price is 60 000 VND (about $3.25) so you tell him you are paying that. He will say 80k and you settle for this because you think the price have gone up. (It had, 80k was the price everyone else payed also.)

Sit down, relax you are now on the bus that takes you to the border (or at least close to the border if you are not as lucky as we were). Bus journey lasted a few hours 3-5 maybe? Can't remember if there was a bathroom break. Anyone speaking English on the bus? See if you can make it clear that you want to go all the way to the border. People jump of and on along the way, and I think we were the only two left on the bus when we came to the border.

Congratulations you are now in walking distance of China. You remembered your visa right? Along the way to the border there will be lots of people trying to get you to change your leftover VND to RMB. Do this, no bank outside Vietnam will take it. It is worthless after you cross the border. I think it is actually illegal to bring VND out of Vietnam. Get stamped out of Vietnam and proceed to the Chinese side. On the way to the Chinese border facilities look around, because you will find the worlds largest moth sitting on a wall. Sneak up your camera, steal a picture and hope those guards didn't see you/mistake you for a spy 😊 Some papers and stamping later and you are in China. Neat huh?

Go to the line of taxis waiting, and pay the 30 RMB (~$4.40) to get to Pinxiang. I don't know if there is anything to do there, we were going to Nanning, and this seems to be normal, because even though we didn't say where we were going the Taxi took us to the bus station. Nice! Get another snack maybe and enter the bus station. Again look confused, and get that bus ticket somehow. Can't remember the price but its not very much. Wait around for a short while, and get on the bus when its time. If in doubt show your ticket to anyone and they will point you in the right direction. When you enter the bus be pleasantly surprised of the luxurious standard, with reclining seats and legroom worthy a business class flight. Really, I have never before or after been on such a comfy bus. And since you are in Asia still there will come a lady and give you a bottle of water when the bus starts rolling. Enjoy the ride, I am sure there was some half decent scenery. Can't recall at all the length of this ride. 3 hours perhaps?

Now you are in Nanning. This will be where I leave you to figure out the rest of your trip, since this is a big city and you will find connections to anywhere. But first a few last advice. You are now standing at a bus station and trying to find it on the map in your Lonely Planet (remember this are illegal in China, so put on a cover) or another guide book. To make a long story short: Give up, you are on the new bus station outside of the map. That one road you do manage to find and recognize is loooooooooong you don't want to walk. Instead you give up on life and decides to jump into a private car with that guy that asked where you were going (this is never a bad idea, am I right?) and when I say asked I mean look confused when you point at the name of that cheap hotel you plan to stay at. While the car drives on into the sunset and the driver makes lots of phone calls, remember again: Don't Panic! He is simply trying to find a friend that speak some English that can ask you where you want to go. Make it easy. Train station is fine.

From the train station that cheap place is just across the road. When you have your back against the rail road and facing down that road. (You will know the one) The cheap hotel will be the first place on the left side of the street. Get a room for 50 RMB with shared bathroom or pay some more to get ensuite. Anyways it is basic but absolutely ok for a budget traveler.

Now lay down on those super firm mattresses (they always are in china) and recover for a few minutes, then you will realize it is time for some food. Leave the hotel, follow the main road around the block, and you will find one of these places where the Muslim minority makes hand pulled noodles for about $1 for a meal. Very delicious! Realize they don't sell any beverages (or do they) so after you have finished your meal decide its to much work to find a bar and just grab a few beers and head back to the hotel. Pick up some instant noodles if you fancy that for breakfast, there will always be a water boiler available in China.

Next day take on the city, get a shoeshine for 2 RMB and find that brand new science museum with the robot band. Find out if the band is worth seeing and then let me know (we came too late).

Have a nice trip!
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14 years ago, January 17th 2010 No: 9 Msg: #99993  
soooo China, we're now looking at going from China to Pakistan!! but Hanoi up through China is a go!! We're thinking of going to the Yuan Yang rice fields, has anyone ever been there? we've seen some photos, I'm sure it can't compare to seeing the real thing.
As well we're planning in Beijing, the Terracotta warriors, the great wall, the Yangtze river (are there day trips down the river, or possibly over night trips available?). We still have Tibet on our mind but not entirely sure, it all depends on the pricing once we get there, if it seems affordable we'll be taking the train from Beijing to Lhasa, staying there for maybe a week or so.
is it possible to travel from Lhasa/Tibet area to the Pakistan border? We've heard that it's not horrible crossing the Chinese/Pakistani border and have heard some pretty good things about the north. (and then are looking at going to India, which I'm supposing will be interesting considering everything going on right now) (will be posting in the Pakistan forum as well) Reply to this

14 years ago, January 17th 2010 No: 10 Msg: #99997  
N Posts: 18
If you want to travel to Pakistan from China, you need to go through Khunjerab Pass, Xinjiang. There is no pass from Tibet to Pakistan. But you can go to Nepal and India through (Zhangmu pass)Tibet.
If you want to see rice field. I suggest you to visit Dragon's Backbone Rice Terraces, which is close to Guilin. You may know Guilin and Yangshuo are famous for their Karst topography.
Yuanyang is in Yunnan Province. I think it's a nice place. But most people like to visit Lijiang, Shangri-La(ZhongDian), Dali in Yunnan, not Yuanyang. Yunnan is one of most diverse province in China. Another one is Xinjiang.
Enjoy China. Reply to this

14 years ago, January 17th 2010 No: 11 Msg: #100001  
N Posts: 18
Yangtze river cruise is from Chongqing to Yichang, Hubei, or reverse. It needs a couple days. Reply to this

14 years ago, January 17th 2010 No: 12 Msg: #100002  
Fantastic! thank you for the advice!! Reply to this

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