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too many touts?

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Have read lots of travel reports specifically about scams... is it really so bad?
15 years ago, November 26th 2008 No: 1 Msg: #55719  
Read about scams in Vietnam , especially the Halong Bay trip and am now getting nervous.
Have travelled alone (with hubby) to Thailand, India, China but not been hassled to the extent that people are describing in Vietnam ,and I want to ask you all is it really so bad? Are the Vietnamese constantly trying to rip us off, steal our passports, overcharge and take us to the wrong hotels? How can I know who to trust?
Help,everyone .I really want to go to Vietnam but want to enjoy myself and not be constantly hassled.Can anyone recommend a nice and not really expensive trip in Halong bay apart from Handspan?
and how do I know if the hotel is the real one or not?
please advise... Reply to this

15 years ago, November 26th 2008 No: 2 Msg: #55720  
Hello Ruth 😊

Yes, it is really that bad in many third world countries. The hassle in India is relentless. I doubt that Vietnam is worse(I havent been there). It is a bit less in China and Thailand.

How can I know who to trust?


I would completely avoid street touts. Choose hotels and guesthouses that are listed in the Lonely Planet book and be as careful as you can when buying anything. Use travel agents that are recommended in the Lonely Planet or by other travellers.

Beware of touts advertising on internet forums too.

Mel
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15 years ago, November 26th 2008 No: 3 Msg: #55746  
Yup, as Mel said, it's that bad. Not worse than India, just less friendly.

I'd like to give you some advice, but heck, what to say?

I had an awesome time in Vietnam despite people trying to rip me off. Here's a few lessons I learned:

1. Don't book weeks ahead. I travelled with a few that booked ahead and got the same deal that I did, even though they were promised the earth.

2. If you book a tour, listen to what's included and assume that anything else is not included. You can ask if other things are included, but the answer will usually be yes. If they say no, then maybe you got lucky and found an honest tour company! There are a lot more honest tour companies than dishonest ones, but even tour companies get ripped off.

3. As far as Halong Bay goes, I had a great experience despite not getting quite what I paid for because I was with great travel companions. I didn't have a problem with anyone trying to take my passport or money (although everyone wanted a piece of my wallet). What will probably happen is that you don't get quite what you are promised. And it probably won't even be the fault of the travel agency. You can cry about it or laugh about it. We had a great laugh and decided getting slightly ripped off was a more genuine experience.

4. If you like drinking, consider taking your own supplies on the boat. A lot of boats run out of drinks. If the staff don't like it you can always give them a tip to keep them happy.

5. As for buying from street touts, a very simple rule is to ask yourself is: if losing this much money really matters to you. If it does, follow Mel's advice.

And finally, the easiest way to know if the hotel is the real one is to go there. Tell your taxi to wait, and if you don't like the place, tell him to take you to the next hotel. I've done this on a couple of occasions when I got a bad vibe from the hotel staff (though never in Vietnam). Reply to this

15 years ago, November 27th 2008 No: 4 Msg: #55807  
Have a look at the web site of the Sinh cafe...they are reputable and cheap. You just need to be careful in general when it comes to travel and use reputable sources...

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15 years ago, November 28th 2008 No: 5 Msg: #55918  
I never gone to Vietnam.... due to your info Ruth at least I am aware......... thanks!!!!!! Reply to this

15 years ago, November 30th 2008 No: 6 Msg: #56083  
Hi Ruth,

Before we went to Vietnam we were given all the horror stories about hassle and some people told us they hated the country. We started sorrying that we had made the wrong decision to go there.....that is until we got to Vietnam. There was no more hassle than any other Asian country and it was all good natured. If we declined an offer we were not attacked or anything ridiculous. All I would say is to get a good guidebook and if you are unsure use the tour companies they recommend. Vietnam was one of our favourite places to visit and we couldn't believe some people had tried to put us off going at all.

Feel free to take a look at our blog for more on what we did in Vietnam.

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15 years ago, November 30th 2008 No: 7 Msg: #56085  
thanks a million, Ant I am most encouraged by what you say.
Let's hope BKK airport is okay by the time we go... Reply to this

15 years ago, November 30th 2008 No: 8 Msg: #56086  
I think some people have more tolerance than others for touts. It seems to me that you are good at dealing with them, Ruth. If you are not allergic to them after a visit to India you certainly have the knack and I dont think you will be upset by the ones in Vietnam. 😊 Mel Reply to this

15 years ago, December 22nd 2008 No: 9 Msg: #58126  
N Posts: 15
Cambodia has far more touts and beggers than Viet Nam. To avoid them, get off the beaten path.

To avoid having bad trip you should book a tour with a reputable tour company such as Vegan, Kangaroo, ET Pumpkin, Indochine, Ocean, Sinh cafe, Hostel's tour (at Hanoi's packbacker hostel), etc.. Pay a reasonable amount for Halong bay to guarantee a good trip. It'd be a disaster if you pay for the cheapest tour - $40usd to $50 usd for 3d/2n.

Nobody will steal your passport as the hotel will keep it or maybe a copy of it during your stay. You will be overcharged at least once in Vietnam because the Vietnamese people are masters of bargaining. The same goes for Laos, Cambodia and Thailand, but normally the overcharge is about a few dollars worth. So don't worry too much about it. If you care too much about being overcharged a few dollars then it'd be hard for you to enjoy traveling in a developing countries such as VN.

You'll find load of hotels one after another in major tourist places in VN. It's wise to have a look at the room first.

It's best giving a hotel's name and adress on a piece of paper to your taxi driver. if he takes you to a wrong one, just be firm in telling him you want to go there.

Have a good time in VN! Reply to this

15 years ago, March 5th 2009 No: 10 Msg: #64863  
B Posts: 36
to answer your question...worse than what you have imagined!
Watch your cell phone, jewellery and cash as well.
Travel tip. you can easily buy Lonely Planet Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, China books and Phrasebooks for about US $3 (yes three dollars-if you bargain even less eg 40,000 Vietnam Dong) in District one in Saigon and all other tourist centres.Just walk along the street I the tourist strips…if you don’t stumble over their sidewalk stalls they will be chasing you with boxes of books for sale anyway! Reply to this

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