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Traveling in Oct to Thailand, suggestions on ways to get a real taste of the culture and not tourism

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Best beaches with swimming, best diving, how to find guides, should you book on line or when you get there...so many questions
15 years ago, May 22nd 2008 No: 1 Msg: #36036  
I am very excited to go to Thailand in Oct for 2-3 weeks. We are going to Phuket and thinking of Bangkok and Chaing Mai too. We would like to dive and stay at a place to get in the water. We would like to find someone to give us a cultural tour, possibly have a meal with a family. We definitely don't want anything touristy. Should we just get over there and figure out where to stay once there or should we book online? Thailand is huge, where should we go for sure!
Any suggestions would be much appreciated. Reply to this

15 years ago, May 22nd 2008 No: 2 Msg: #36038  
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Phuket is very tourist oriented. come over to the east side since you want to dive and try koh tao. ultimately, your dates are going to put you right in the center of the worst part of the rainy season, so diving quality may suffer if its been raining for a week or two straight. koh pha ngan and are pretty much empty at that time of year so you can certainly bargain for a place. unfortunately, if it is real thai culture you are after, you need to head into the far north or far south and since the far south is pretty dangerous right now, probably chiang rai or khon kaen would get you the culture you are after.

if you don't enjoy dozens of chili peppers in your somtam and the idea of eating rotten fish sauce isn't appealing to you, you might want to skip the meal and maybe just have them show you their buffalo.
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15 years ago, May 22nd 2008 No: 3 Msg: #36042  
hi Lynn try to Khao sok National park its very ice place too.... Reply to this

15 years ago, May 22nd 2008 No: 4 Msg: #36046  
hi joe,

going to thailand early part of next year. whats going on in the south of thailand thats making it dangerous? any specific cities or areas of the south to avoid? thanks.

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15 years ago, May 22nd 2008 No: 5 Msg: #36050  
Hi Matt Thailand is safe but now Thailand is currently facing armed violence in its three Muslim-majority southernmost provinces Pattani,Yala and Narativas).....yes ..... to avoid

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15 years ago, May 22nd 2008 No: 6 Msg: #36054  
Hi Koi, thank you for informing me. I'm still very excited about traveling to Thailand, but will make sure to avoid those areas if the unrest continues. Thanks again! Reply to this

15 years ago, May 22nd 2008 No: 7 Msg: #36073  
a lot of nice place here Matt : )

and dont worries be happy : )

everywhere in the world.... dangerous

take care
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15 years ago, May 22nd 2008 No: 8 Msg: #36090  
Hello Lynn 😊

No need to book online.
Get a Lonely Planet Guide for Thailand. That has information about all kinds of things to do in Thailand, and about practical things like accomodation, money, transport, safety...... It is available in most bookshops around the world for around 30 Euros.

I second Khao Sok. I was there for 2 weeks during my last trip to Thailand. It is easy to get to from Phukett. You just take the bus from the bus station in Phukett town. The journey is around 3 hours. I can recommend someplace for you to stay in Khao Sok and a nice restaurant if you want.

Dont worry too much about the unrest. The places you listed above are far away from it. It is mostly near the Thai Malaysian border that the trouble is.

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15 years ago, May 22nd 2008 No: 9 Msg: #36113  
Ok someone told me that Oct is the end of rainy season, so when is the best time to go? We can go anytime.
Mell...I would love the name of the place and restaurant in Kaho Sok.

Thanks for all the good info. I will get the lonely planet book, it really helped when we went to Bali. Reply to this

15 years ago, May 23rd 2008 No: 10 Msg: #36129  
Hi.

I went to Thailand last year in the rainy season and it wasnt too bad..would rain occasionly for about an hour or so and then it was fine again. Usually for the rest of the day :o) Reply to this

15 years ago, May 23rd 2008 No: 11 Msg: #36135  
Dont worry Lynn .....rainy season here its not too bad : )

we have 3 season : hot , very hot , very very hot ; ) , The weather in Thailand very hot and humid.. but its ok : ) ...

Kaho Sok is very nice.. i prefer that.

and....Tarutao Marine National Park ,ko lanta , Ko similan (best place for diving)... so nice too.

Hi Mell what do you think about Khao Sok national park? is it nice? i love that place so much. have you ever been Ko lanta?

take care friends : ) Reply to this

15 years ago, May 23rd 2008 No: 12 Msg: #36139  
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in response to #4, apparently i am limited to 5 posts per day, Thailand has a pretty active and rebellious muslim population in the far south, regular bombings in public office buildings,schools,shopping malls etc. if you travel through the south, be careful. if the farthest south you go is phuket or samui, no worries. just avoid the southernmost provinces that border malaysia.

khao sok is awesome. oldest rainforest in the world apparently. i use my thai drivers license to get into the park for the thai fee instead of farang. totally recommend staying overnight on the lake. budget accomodation but it's fun to rough it once in a while.

rainy season and koh samui do not combine for nice vacations. last october we made the international cnn broadcast due to flooding. regularly rains for 2-3 weeks straight, even a full month if it feels like it. i'm not suggesting you don't travel to thailand in october or november, just be prepared to be soaked. Reply to this

15 years ago, May 24th 2008 No: 13 Msg: #36231  
Lynn,
I could almost write a book in response to your questions, but I don't want to bore you too much! so this will have to do:

First of all I would plan for at least 3 weeks. If you only have 2 weeks I would choose either Southern Thailand or Northern but not both.

Secondly, if you go in October you will be going in low season which means you will benefit from lower prices, less tourists and rainier weather (in the case of the Gulf of Thailand ie. Ko Tao, Ko Samui and Ko Phangan, it will be full-on monsoon. I do not recommend anywhere in the Gulf during this time, Andaman sea side is preferable). Prices jump drastically, especially in the South, approximately Nov 1st.

Thirdly, Phuket is the most touristy place in Thailand and quite frankly if you are looking for something cultural or authentic you will not find it here.

While I don't recommend staying anywhere on Phuket, it can be a good jump off point for some preferable places to visit (From Bangkok you can fly direct to Krabi or Phuket, I actually suggest making Krabi your jump-off point instead of Phuket. It is more authentic and much cheaper). So, you could fly direct from Bangkok to either Krabi or Phuket, stay one night, then take off:

For diving, without a doubt the best in Thailand is the Ko Similian Islands (which are only a short distance from Phuket). If you can arrange a few days in this region, I would do it (you cannot stay in accommodations on the islands but I believe there are some tour groups that do an overnight camp trip). You can stay on the mainland in Khao Lak.

I agree with others who have posted here who have recommended Khao Sok National Park - also very close to Phuket and the Ko Similians. The restaurant the gal is referring to might be Thai Herb - probably the best restaurant in the Khao Sok region. There are no nice beaches here, just awesome scenery, wildlife, and karsts.

For the nice beaches and amazing karst scenery, you could jump on a ferry from either Krabi or Phuket to Ko Phi Phi (also touristy but much nicer than Phuket), Raileh, Ko Lanta (more peaceful), and perhaps even as far south as Turatao (much less touristy).

For the cultural part of your journey I suggest northern Thailand, starting with Chiang Mai (tons of flights up there, no need to book until you get to Thailand). I personally feel that a trip to Thailand isn't complete without venturing somewhere north. The prices are better, the food is the best and the people seem so much friendlier. If you can't make it as far as Chiang Mai (and even if you can), I also suggest a trip to old Sukothai (fabulous place, much less touristy, peaceful and full of amazing ruins).

I have found in my Thailand travels that wherever you are, the best way to really get a feel for the Thai culture is to either jump on a bicycle or scooter and just take off, stop wherever you want and talk to people. I lived there and my best memories are those I had while on the bike and while in the North or Northwest.

Lastly, I wouldn't book anything before I got there....
Good luck!! Reply to this

15 years ago, May 24th 2008 No: 14 Msg: #36279  

i am limited to 5 posts per day



Hello Joe 😊

After you upload you first blog this limit will be removed and you can post more per day.
This is on condition that your first blog is neither promotional nor a test blog.
This helps reduce the amount of spam that is posted on this site.

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15 years ago, May 24th 2008 No: 15 Msg: #36282  

I would love the name of the place and restaurant in Kaho Sok.



Arts River Lodge
Phone: 0 7276 3933
It costs 10 to 30 Euros for a double bungalow.
It is right beside a natural pool where monkeys come and swim in the evenings. The restaruant overlooks the pool so you can watch them while you have dinner or even just sit there with a drink and watch them.
You can also swim in the pool too if you want.

Bring a flash light. The village is lit up at night but the road to the lodge is only lit in some parts. Sometimes snakes cross the road so you want to be able to see them when you are walking there are night.
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15 years ago, June 3rd 2008 No: 16 Msg: #37246  
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Hey Guys!
I am plannign a trip to Thailand and Laos at the end of septmeber. I know it might br rainy but tis the only time I can get away from work for 2 weeks. My plan is to fly into Bangkok quickly then head up to laos to backpack and hike for a week. Then I want to fly down to souther thailand to hit the beaches. I want to avoid anythign touristy like the plague! I guess im lookign for somethign very tropical and bungalow-esque where I can get away from western civilization as much as possible. I was thinking Krabi just because its so beautiful but i dont want to be 1 of 3409883487357 american tourists. Any ideas where I could go at that time of year???

THANKS!!! Reply to this

15 years ago, June 3rd 2008 No: 17 Msg: #37253  
Hello Jorgan 😊

You could try the following island. It was recommended to me by an American guy I met in Bangkok.
He says it does not get many tourists. I did not go there myself yet so if you go would you let me know what it is like.

The island

Mel
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15 years ago, June 3rd 2008 No: 18 Msg: #37261  
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That looks great thanks! Ive heard awesome thing about Phi Phi too. Any one have any suggestions on which parts are the best for outdoor activities? Reply to this

15 years ago, June 3rd 2008 No: 19 Msg: #37268  
Jorgan,
If you really want to "avoid anything touristy like the plaque", Phi Phi will not be for you. Although beautiful, it is completely touristy. You may wish to consider one of the beaches further south on Ko Lanta or perhaps Ko Lipe in Ko Turatao national park (harder to get to). Even these 2 places are getting more and more touristy as the months go by. However, there are a number of lesser known islands with accommodation that are just as beautiful as the more touristy ones. Ko Kraden (close to Ko Lanta) has, I believe, 1 bungalow operation. You will need to do some further research on these lesser known places, but they will certainly provide you with what you are looking for..... Very few tourists, peace and quiet, great beaches and snorkelling.
Good luck!
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15 years ago, June 4th 2008 No: 20 Msg: #37302  
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jorgan- i don't think you have to be concerned with american tourists anywhere in thailand as americans are the least well represented major nation in thailand.

however, if you are concerned about drunk bald tattooed englishmen and germans, they are here in full force. Reply to this

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