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Central America and onwards

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Is it possible to travel to central america, onto south america and then onto new Zealand
13 years ago, July 26th 2010 No: 1 Msg: #116528  
Hello,

I was wondering if anyone has travel through central america onto south america and then onto New Zealand or Oz? I know its an odd one but if anyone has any suggestions on how to do this I would be most grateful. I'm traveling from the UK around about the end of August beginning of September. I'm looking for a round the world flight ticket but none of the ones I look at go to S america??? Would it be possible to go to N america and then onto central and south america by land?? Lots to ask I know, but need all the help i can get.

Many thanks
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13 years ago, August 28th 2010 No: 2 Msg: #118299  
Serina, I can't speak on everything you're asking, but I can tell you some. You can go from North America to Central America by land (though not necessarily a small trip). In Central America, you will be able to travel to Panama. However, despite Panama connected by land to Colombia, there is the Darien Forest on the south end of Panama. It is heavily forested with no roads to the Colombian border and is known as the "Darien Gap" as it is a gap in the Pan-American Highway that would otherwise travel from North through South America. It also is completely unpoliced by the Panamanian government and left primarily to guerrillas (through the organization known as FARC in South America) or drug lords. It is generally considered not safe to travel through the forest or Darien Gap. Do a Google or Wikipedia search for more information.

In other words, from Panama you will have to fly to South America or find a boat.

As far as continuing to Oz, it sounds like a great trip but I know nothing more than what you could find on the internet yourself...sorry...

As far as RTW tickets, you've checked www.oneworld.com and www.skyteam.com? These are two of the big airline alliances that have information on RTW tickets. I haven't (yet) done a RTW trip so I haven't done this purchase, but read a little about it. I've also heard different theories on this forum on RTW ticket vs. just buying one-way tickets along the way. Plusses and minuses to each, from what I've read. You could probably do some searching in the forums on this thread, or start another in the general travel forum. Reply to this

13 years ago, August 28th 2010 No: 3 Msg: #118306  
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Hi Serina,

I've flown Auckland - South America (Lima) return on LAN airlines, so it's definitely doable.

Can't remember what other flight options were available at the time sorry, but as Gary suggested, checking airline alliance (rather than single airline specific) RTWs are worth looking into.

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13 years ago, August 30th 2010 No: 4 Msg: #118421  

How to cross the Darien gap?
Easy, cause there is mainly one way.
If you are driving, you must ship your car, if you are backpacking you can fly or sail.

To ship your vehicle there are two ways, ro-ro, means roll on roll of, aka without a container ( we don't know much about this one but I am sure it is similar procedures) or put your vehicle in a 20 ft or 40ft container. We put ours in a 20 ft container, you can do solo about U$1300 or you can try to find a partner and share it, still the cost is about U$1100.
You can ship it to Cartagena, Colombia or Guayaquil, Ecuador, the cost is about the same, Colombia is a bit cheaper since it is a lot more common.

We used a lady called Tea Kalmbach, she is reliable and she knows what she is doing. To be honest is the best of the worse. That's the real truth, but she is good and honest, she will tell you things as they are. Truth is, it is time consuming and lots of paperwork, but it is easy if you contact her, she will walk you thru the whole process. You need 2 days to ship and at least 2 days to get it back, No way to do it in less time, we tried!!
Her email is

Be careful with the companies that seem cheaper, make sure that what you are being charged includes unloading charges as well, we heard of several companies charging $700/$800 but then you need to pay another $500/$600 at port to unload your car. When we did it with her, we paid her $1275 and then just another $100 in paperwork and stamps in Cartagena.


What about you?
Well, you cant get on the boat with your car, so there are 2 options.
You can Fly from Panama ( I think Tea also helps people get good rates, ask her)
or...
You can have the experience of your lifetime and book yourself and your fellow traveler on a Sailboat to Cartagena.
The trip goes as follows...
You go from Panama City on a 4x4 to Carti, once you get there ( 3 hours) you get on the boat and start your amazing journey through the San Blas, or Kuna islands for 3/4 days. Then you sail for aprox 36 hours in open water and you get to Cartagena!! ( bring Dramamine or Stugeron) Pretty amazing and honestly the experience of your lifetime!! (check our pics)

We used a company called Sailing Koala www.sailingkoala.com

Fabian is a great captain, he knows a lot about sailing and has been doing this for over 12 years. Also he will wait for you at the shore in Carti, so you save some $$, the Kunas will charge you for everything they can!!
We had a great time, ate great food and were so lucky that we were only 5 passengers. Usually they are 8+ and also the crew. Make sure you know how many people will be traveling on the boat and how are the sleeping arrangements, Fabian gives everybody a room. He has a 42 ft Catamaran, with 4 bedrooms and 3 bathrooms, even though they usually use one or two, basically to save water.
If you are a couple you most definitely will have your suite.
The food is good, not great, I should say it is not their forte but they try hard and you will be eating Lobster, Crab and Fish mostly every day. You just have to ask. Also if you can cook they will let you try cooking, just bare in mind it is not that easy to cook on a boat!
email: fabian@sailingkoala.com

This are some tips I copied from a reliable website.



Most of the boats right now are going to Cartagena. The prices are all per person and include all meals and non-alcoholic beverages and usually all immigration fees. With most boats we advise you take your alcohol and snacks with you when you leave Panama City.



Most of the boats are leaving from Carti in the San Blas islands and therefore involve an additional $40 in travel fees to reach Carti where the boat leaves from. This includes $25 for a jeep to Carti, around $5 for a launcher to the ship and around $8 in Kuna taxes. Be aware there are no cash machines in Carti so all money must be withdrawn in Panama City.



Some boats go to Sapzurro which means a trip all along the coast and more island time usually, without the long open sea crossing to Cartagena. From Sapzurro you will take as couple of launchers to Turbo and then a bus either to Cartagena or another destination, this costs approx $70, and about 20 hours.



A few boats leave from either Portobello or Puerto Lindo in Colon, which are reachable by bus for $5-10. From here it almost a days sailing to the San Blas islands which is why many Captains have decided to leave from Carti as to give people more time in the islands.



The trips range from $375-$500 depending on the quality and duration.



You can contact Stuart at Mamallena Hostel in Panama City and they will give you all the info. They really know a lot.



Hostel Mamallena
Panama City and Boquete, Panama
www.mamallena.com
Casa 7-62 Calle Primera, Perejil
Phone: cell


You can definitely do this trip from Cartagena to Panama City, just reverse the order!!! In Cartagena you can contact
LUNA CASTLE HOSTEL
www.lunacastlehostel.com

Any question let us know

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13 years ago, August 30th 2010 No: 5 Msg: #118431  
Cheers for all the suggestions 😊 Reply to this

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