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Is Trip Advisor paying for bad reviews?

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Long and controversial discussion on the effect TripAdvisor has on businesses, opinions on both sides.
12 years ago, December 15th 2011 No: 1201 Msg: #148880  
http://www.tnooz.com/2011/12/14/news/what-is-wrong-with-tripadvisor/ and intersting aeticle and another one that will do harm to our friends at Tripadvior....the walls are caving in ....lol Reply to this

12 years ago, December 15th 2011 No: 1202 Msg: #148881  
Allow the truth Ali, it is something that is not offered by Tripadvisor. Reply to this

12 years ago, January 1st 2012 No: 1203 Msg: #149604  
I have been subject to TA's defamatory reviews and there seems to be nothing that can be done about it other that a huge class action suit to stop them in their tracks. We just closed for the season and up pops a review that is not only insulting but an outright lie. When someone complains that the soap you have is not to their liking, BFD! Bring your own if you're that fussy! And when they say that the matresses are bad When they are brand new and there are no hair driers in the room ( but we provide them on request), my God! Do I need to wipe their butts too? And there is no disputing this on TA. They are completely one sided. So I sit with this with this bad review glaring in the faces of people who think TA is the be all end all of the travel industry when in fact they should be sued for all their assets for not allowing a truthful rebutal and the disclosure of the names of the individuals who posted false information. I am getting to hate this business thanks to TA. Reply to this

12 years ago, January 1st 2012 No: 1204 Msg: #149605  

How about we form a class and sue the life out of them?In response to: Msg #74637 Reply to this

12 years ago, January 1st 2012 No: 1205 Msg: #149610  
Tripadvisor are becoming a bigger joke than ever, I now never go on Tripadvisor and do not welcome people that are stupid enough to take notice of the lies that they allow to be published but do not allow us to defend ourselves. Reply to this

12 years ago, January 1st 2012 No: 1206 Msg: #149615  

In response to: Msg #148880
I read an article published recently on a culinary magazine website that addressed another problem that has arisen due largely in part to the popularity of travel review sites. The jist of the article was that restaurants and lodging facilities are being blackmailed by guests who threaten to post nasty reviews unless their demands are met (i.e., full or partial refund, deep discount, free upgrade or room, free meal, etc.). Interestly, the article noted that TripAdvisor punishes those who dare to object to nasty reviews by deleating positive reviews and posting notices that the business has attempted to manipulate its standing.

Presently, I am dealing with a guest demanding a full refund for one of two nights becasue she felt she treated disrespectfully. She said that she was told by the travel agent at AAA that she could do this. Since blackmail is crime, I turned the matter over to the police. The problem with such cases, other than getting the police to take action, is determining "jurisdiction." Hopefully, the authorities will take action. Reply to this

12 years ago, January 2nd 2012 No: 1207 Msg: #149707  
Here is a new one: TripAdvisor permiitted a poster to post a review giving a restaurant a 3 out of 5 rating notwithstanding the fact that the reviewer states that he hasn't been to the restuarant since posting a highly negative review 12 months earlier. See for yourself: Eureka Springs Arkansas restaurants: Gaskings Cabin Steakhouse. Reply to this

12 years ago, January 25th 2012 No: 1208 Msg: #150988  

In response to: Msg #55723 I had my holiday villa business seriously damaged by one erroneous review on tripadvisor. Basically, the guest tried to blackmail me. I have found a way to get rid of bad reviews in Tripadvisor. Get rid of them both within TA and the Google search results. You can get details here http://www.tripadvisor-reviews.com.au/ Reply to this

12 years ago, January 26th 2012 No: 1209 Msg: #151029  


Hello David 😊

Are you a lawyer? If not, how else would you have the reviews removed? You don't mean you can hack into TripAdvisor and actually remove them, do you? Or some other way? Is what you do legal?

Mel
TravelBlog Moderator Reply to this

12 years ago, January 26th 2012 No: 1210 Msg: #151043  
Hi

I am not a lawyer.

It has nothing to do with hacking into TripAdvisor's website. No I would never suggest doing that as, because as you hinted at, it would be illegal. I would NOT suggest doing anything illegal. I would not sugest tampering with the TripAdvisor website either. Nor would I suggest in any way contacting the negative reviewer.

Anyone can remove ther reviews without any interaction with TripAdvisor or any interaction with the TripAdvisor website or the reviwer in most cases: however not all cases.

I do not wish to go into details but what I would say to anyone wishing to remove reviews from their listing is:

*look at what influences TripAdvisor to display what it does.

*are you prepred to lose your listing on TA completely (in other words: is a damaging negative review more detrimental to your business than having no TA listing at all

* if the answer to the second point above is that you would be better off with NO TA listing than having a listing that has nasty false negatives, then follow the digital paper trail and influence that (again no hacking please or anything illegal)

I have taken the website down in which I offered advise on how to do this as I do not want it to be considered as legal advise. My lawyer has suggested to me that it could be taken as legal advse. For this reason I do not wish to publish any more details in case anyone followed the suggestions and were unhappy with the outcome (ie no TA listing) and decided to sue me for loss of business due to no longer having a TA listing, or for losing all their positive reviews as well as the negative.

Unfortunately, I will have to leave business owners to work out from my above three points (*) what to do.

Follow the (digital) paper trail. Nothing illegal please. Reply to this

12 years ago, January 26th 2012 No: 1211 Msg: #151053  
PS:

We are currently also working with our legal team on a take down notice solution that would not involve costly litigation and would be a PRE-EMPTIVE solution to the possibility of future false, misleading or negative reviews.

This is in the final stages of drafting and would be based on legal precedent in both the U.K and the U.S. Reply to this

12 years ago, January 27th 2012 No: 1212 Msg: #151069  
I have checked out Davids service a little. It charges thousands to have a review removed. I personally am unsure what to think of it, and advise those who are considering using it to be wary at least. ie Be sure to fully investigate what this company does.

Mel
TravelBlog Moderator. Reply to this

12 years ago, February 1st 2012 No: 1213 Msg: #151264  
For all of the Tripadvisor lovers out there that have been duped into believing that whatever Tripadvisor say is the truth the whole truth blah blah.

what TripAdvisor has been told it cannot claim all of its reviews are written by real travellers.
The Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) said claims that all reviews on the travel site are genuine are "misleading".
The ruling came after complaints highlighted statements on the TripAdvisor website which claimed: "reviews you can trust", "read reviews from real travellers" and "more than 50 million honest travel reviews and opinions from real travellers around the world".
The complainants said they understood that TripAdvisor did not verify the reviews and therefore could not prove that they were genuine or from real travellers.
The ASA upheld the complaint and said that consumers would take the claims on the website to mean they could be certain the reviews posted were from genuine travellers. It said that, as reviews could be placed on the site without verification, it was possible that non-genuine reviews could go undetected.
TripAdvisor said it used "advanced and highly effective" fraud detection systems and dedicated substantial resources to identifying and minimising any non-genuine content.
However it said it was "not practical" to screen each review manually before it was posted and there was no practical way to verify identities due to their independence from operators.
TripAdvisor said reviewers were asked to sign a declaration that their review was genuine and honest but the ASA concluded that this did not necessarily prevent non-genuine reviews from being posted on the site.
The watchdog said: "Because we considered that the claims implied that consumers could be assured that all review content on the TripAdvisor site was genuine, when we understood that might not be the case, we concluded that the claims were misleading.
"We told TripAdvisor not to claim or imply that all the reviews that appeared on the website were from real travellers, or were honest, real or trusted." Reply to this

12 years ago, February 1st 2012 No: 1214 Msg: #151265  
B Posts: 5,200
Mark can you post a link to any press on the above quote? Higher profile publication the better... or a ruling on the ASA site?

Ali
TravelBlog Founder Reply to this

12 years ago, February 1st 2012 No: 1215 Msg: #151266  
Ali, here is the link..... http://uk.news.yahoo.com/travel-website-claims-misleading-010706285.html Reply to this

12 years ago, February 1st 2012 No: 1216 Msg: #151267  
And here is the link from the ASA website.

http://www.asa.org.uk/ASA-action/Adjudications/2012/2/TripAdvisor-LLC/SHP_ADJ_166867.aspx Reply to this

12 years ago, February 1st 2012 No: 1217 Msg: #151269  
Please note that KwikChex has expanded on this news with a statement on our website, citing the reasons for our actions and further detail.

http://www.kwikchex.com/2012/02/kwikchex-statement-re-asa-ruling-on-complaint-against-tripadvisor/ Reply to this

12 years ago, February 1st 2012 No: 1218 Msg: #151270  
Congratulations are due to Chris Emmin for striking another significant blow to the credibility of this pernicious organisation. TA described the ASA decision as "Highly technical". No!- a lie is a lie no matter what you call it. A spokesman fot TA on the Today programme this morning in the process of trying to defend the indefensible, stated that the changes to their website enforced by the ASA would only apply to the UK website. As far as the rest of the world is concerned it will be business (Lieing) as usual.

Now it is time for other UK governmental departments like the national tourism
web sites, and the Data protection office to get behind the ASA censure, and consign these fraudsters to the dustbin of history where they belong.

If the Massachusetts legislature woke up and smelled the coffee, that would be a welcome bonus.

Now watch the old brewery guest house listing for a TA response.
In response to: Msg #151269 Reply to this

12 years ago, February 3rd 2012 No: 1219 Msg: #151357  
This thread confuses me quite a bit and i have a few questions.... i do have a personal preference for travelblog and really enjoy the people on the forums but i do also use tripadvisor for information as i've mentioned previously in here so thought i would put some thoughts out there.....

Quite a few people on here have said that they have received reviews on ta that are from fake people or are from people saying extremely incorrect things. Why cant you just write to ta in response? For example, if you look at the green garden resort in tuban bali there have recently been a lot of negative responses and the management has replied to each one either apologising, taking on their comments or constructively explaining why what they said was blatantly wrong. For example 'you said you didnt like the ground floor room with the door opening on to the pool however you stayed on the 4th floor'. That sort of cracked me up! I thought for a few of you where you have said people complained there werent any hairdryers or the soap was wrong you could definitly go that route and just say you apologise that there wasnt a hairdryer in the room but as written in the guest guide there is one available at reception if they ask etc etc. Then at least their review and their opinion has been squashed.

The other thing is i am noticing more and more are fake people on tb in the forums... some are ridiculously obvious and tout that they are from a travel company and can help you but some are just way to salesy on a place and out of place in the thread or discussion that is happenning. there is one at the moment in the discussion regarding thai beaches that seems a little odd and out of place. Although i am impressed if govt tourism boards send people off to play on social media sites. I dont think the aussie govt is that far advanced to even allow social media sites on their office pc's!!!! anyhoo, thought it was worth mentioning as that seems to be a regular comment on here regarding ta, but it does occur on tb as well. Reply to this

12 years ago, March 16th 2012 No: 1220 Msg: #153294  
But can it be ignored that there is a vast mass of people who make decisions based on tripadvisor reviews? Reply to this

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