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Woman Traveling Alone Through Southeast Asia

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Backpacking in Southeast Asia.
13 years ago, August 29th 2010 No: 1 Msg: #118343  
I am a 19 year old planning on backpacking through Thailand, Laos, Cambodia and Vietnam in January 2011, for four months. My main concern is my safety, but I\'m also worried about meeting people and having a good time. I am doing a volunteer program for two weeks, but then I am on my own. I am thinking about flying from Seattle to Singapore and then on to Bangkok, but I really have no idea. Has anyone done a route similar that has any suggestions (the cheapest route?).
How did you feel about meeting people and the easiness of it, and is it ok to go to things like the full moon party, or is that just asking for something bad to happen?
Any suggestions from people who have done this area or have suggestions would be appreciated! Reply to this

13 years ago, August 30th 2010 No: 2 Msg: #118408  
Hi Kaitlyn

I hav a suggestion from Cambodia to Vietnam, you can get the bus from Siem Reap to PNP (Mekong bus) then PNP to Saigon by bus or by speedboat from PNP to Chau Doc then get the local bus to Can tho then Saigon (Mai Linh bus). From Saigon to the centre and north VN, you can use the Open bus.

From Hanoi you can take the bus to come back to Vinh City (Nghe An provice) to get the local bus to Cau Treo border gate to go through Laos.

From Saigon you can get the bus to Dalat then go to highland in centre of VN (Buon Me Thuat, Gialai and Kontum before go to coatal centre (Hoian and Hue...)

Peter Chinh Reply to this

13 years ago, August 30th 2010 No: 3 Msg: #118424  
Alright thanks. Im also confused about flights. I'm flying into Bangkok, so should I get a roundtrip ticket to Bangkok? Is it possible to make that loop around the countries and then back to Bangkok to fly out? Or would that be very expensive? Reply to this

13 years ago, August 30th 2010 No: 4 Msg: #118429  
Dear Kaitlyn,
Bangkok, along with Kuala Lumpur, are the major hubs for Air Asia, one of many discount airlines serving Southeast Asia, and my favorite. They offer great air fares, which are so good, that I question the sanity of those who take the train/bus/minibus/songtaew/tuk-tuk/ferry combinations at scam you at every transportation node, and are exhausting. So check their website, along with the others.
You have time to research your trip learning from the experiences of others who document their journey on travelblog. As far as routes are concerned, the LP guide for SE Asia, provides the standards routes taken by the majority of backpackers. Some overland trips are fine...you just have to avoid those that are usually reported as being a nightmare. As for safety and companionship, which usually go hand in hand, you will certainly meet other backpackers going your way, and by exercizing some discretion, join them for segments of your trip. As for cheapest, by choosing SE Asia rather than Europe, or Australia/NZ, you already are saving large sums of money for transportation, food, accommodations, and entertainment. But I for one, do not subscribe to looking for the absolute cheapest when it comes to transportation or accommodations, when the difference in price to upgrade to something that is faster (I would rather fly two hours from Bangkok to Krabi for $42 than take 24 hours on the aforementioned modes of transportation), or more comfortable (a room that isn't bug infested, has clean sheets, and may even have air conditioning) is so minimal, I always pick the upgrade. As for the Full Moon party, go with someone you trust, and leave together. Reply to this

13 years ago, August 31st 2010 No: 5 Msg: #118459  
Hey

You don't need to book that route as part of your long haul flight tickets. There are loads of budget airlines in Asia that you can use if you decide to fly some legs. Look at Air Asia, Tiger Airways, Nok Air and Jetstar Asia for a start. I'm with Bob on considering upgrading transport from long bus journeys to flights. Sometimes it doesn't make any difference in price but you get more time in a place and less uncomfortable travel.

It's really easy to meet people on this type of trip. People will be doing exactly the same route as you so you will bump into them again and again on buses and in guesthouses, hostels and bars.

As for bad things happening, just be sensible and aware. Don't trust everyone who seems friendly. Keep your head on straight and you should be fine. Reply to this

13 years ago, September 1st 2010 No: 6 Msg: #118532  
Alright, thanks. Ill keep everything in mind. Reply to this

13 years ago, September 2nd 2010 No: 7 Msg: #118566  
Hello Kaitlyn, I am José from Germany/Belgium. My wife and I are frequent visitors from the Asian continent, we go bach there end of october. I have beeing reading your messge here and therefore my reply... first of all, there is no danger for Young woman to travel around in Asia, not more than in Europ or USA i would say. However, if you are looking for problems you can find it everywhere, like at home too, i think. So stay away from problems or strangers wanting to become "good friends" because sommetimes their intentions arent so good. For travelling, from Bangkok, Kuala Lumphur, you can get annywhere in Asia/Indonesia, and that for a more than reasonable price. From BKK you can travel by train, bus and Airplane, and sommetimes you could wonder about prices. I would suggest you, go to airasia.com and make yourself a traveler profile, and agree they sent you the weekly/montly offers. You will receive regurarly incrdible offers, but you have to be quick to book because they are fast booked out. Some excamples from 2009.. BKK-UDON TH, UDON Th-BKK, BKK- Chiang Mai and Back, BKK to Phuket and back, these flights for 2 pax, so 12 tickets costs only 72€, little less than 90$. This Year, from BKK to Bali, from Bali tu Kuala L, and from Kuala L to Phnom penh x2 people= 147€ in total. Just to tell you, verry cheap, if you book the right moment, and if no offers, still reasonable prices available. I can assure you, we booked those flights because of the prices, we wouldnt have beeing cheaper by bus or train. And those flights you can use all over the Asian continent. BUT.... if you have time, and want to hold on on your way to visit people culture .. than Bus or train is the best alternative, and here also different price cattegories.. from deluxe Aircon bus till pigs truck. I dont know Vietnam yet... so do not want to gige comments on that Country, but Thailand, Cambodia, Laos, Malaisia and Indonesia is verry easy travelling... also as a young lady on the road. Last hint...if entering one of those countrys by plane, most of the time you can stay 30 days without renewing visa(on arrival), but if entering by the road... this is reduced untill only 15 days. Please read on the Internet about Visa for the different countrys you want to visit.
I am always open to give advice where i can... Also the comment from Bob Carlsen and rat on the road about other Low Budget comp is realy a good alternative. And yes... if you can bump on with otter backpackers... can make life easyer.. but not always. Keep on travelling, enjoy te country, nature, people, food, and know, you are not alone . Reply to this

13 years ago, October 1st 2010 No: 8 Msg: #120152  
Thanks for everyones advice! Im planning on arriving in Thailand. I heard Singapore was cheaper, but everywhere I have looked flights to Bangkok seem to be cheaper. Am I missing something? Also, I have decided on Indonesia, Cambodia, Thailand, Laos, and Vietnam. What would be the best order to do these countries in? I know Cambodia, Laos, Vietnam, and Thailand make a loop, but Indonesia will be where I need to do some planning. Reply to this

13 years ago, October 1st 2010 No: 9 Msg: #120153  
Also forgot to mention that I seriously considering the The Philippines because I have heard very good things about it. Are all these countries reasonable within a six month time frame? Reply to this

13 years ago, October 1st 2010 No: 10 Msg: #120154  
Also-sorry I know this is lengthy, but how do you go about purchasing an open jaw ticket? All I see are round trip tickets or one ways, and I want to fly into a certain place but have my return date be up for decision. Reply to this

13 years ago, October 2nd 2010 No: 11 Msg: #120166  
Kaitlyn,
In my experience having Bangkok as the end destination results in the cheapest flights. However, I usually take advantage of the one stopover permitted for such long flights, which allowed me to stop in Japan on one trip and China on another trip for no extra cost other than the in country expenses.
My recommendation for your itinerary, once you get to Bangkok and have spent a few days touring this crazy city, would be to take a flight to the southern islands for a beach vacation to recouperate (Bangkok to Krabi..the gateway to the islands on the Andaman Sea is $60 on Air Asia). There you can go to Ao Nang, Railey, Phi Phi, and Phuket. Then take the Air Asia flight from Phuket to Chiang Mai for $46. Look at other blogs for what to do in Chaing Mai (e.g., jungle treks, etc.). There are many opportunities to volunteer at "orphanages" in northern Thailand, as you mentioned you wished to do. Let me know if you need contact information.
Then look at the blogs to see if you are up for the overland route via minibus and boat, to Luang Prabang, the best place to see true Laos (most describe it as a trip to hell). Otherwise take the Lao Aviation flight for $176. I would take the shorter trips in Laos in minibuses to places like Vang Vieng...if you are into that scene...again look at travelblog for other Laos destinations. I would skip Vientiane in favor of more time in Luang Prabang. The air fares from Chiang Mai to Luang Prabang to Hanoi are pretty steep as they are not on discount airlines. To get the discounts you will have to fly back to their hubs and then out again to these destinations (into Vientiane for best prices).
Then look at the blogs to see if you are up for the overland route to Hanoi (also described as a trip to hell). Otherwise take the one hour flight from Luang Prabang to Hanoi on Vietnam Airlines for $200. In Hanoi, make sure you book the three day tour to Halong Bay, and don't pay for the cheapest tour. I'm not sure I would go to Sapa, but you can research the travelblogs related to Vietnam destinations to see what appeals to you. Some don't like Dalat, but it is a cool break, and I'm partial to that city having lived there for eight years. I would take either the sleeper buses or the train down the length of Vietnam, stopping at those places you have identified, and ending in Ho Chi Minh City (HCMC)/Saigon.
There are buses or bus/boat combinations from HCMC/Saigon to Phnom Phen, and from there to Siem Reap/Angkor Wat. Cambodia is also a good place to volunteer. Again, let me know if you need contact information.
I would then take the Air Asia flight from Siem Reap to Kuala Lumpur (KL) for $96, even though you didn't list Malaysia as a destination. However, you did want to go to the Philippines and Indonesia, and KL provides the cheapest flights to both countries (KL-Bali R/T for $143, and KL-Clark/Manila for $237 on Air Asia), assuming Bali as your Indonesia destination. Also, Malaysia is worth visiting...I like the Cameron Highland (another cool climate spot where I lived for 2 years), and Penang...take buses within Malaysia...all shorter distances. As for open jaw tickets, flying a discount airline from Bali to Bangkok ($99 on Air Asia) is probably cheaper than flying from Bali back to the States. However, you might check the cost of flights to Bali with a stopover enroute in Bangkok. Sorry about the length of this reply! Bob Reply to this

13 years ago, October 19th 2010 No: 12 Msg: #121334  
Thanks for your response! I am in the process of figuring out rates for my ticket right now, so that is a little stressful. And I have decided to just fly into Bangkok and return out of it as well.
Do you think it would be reasonable to fly into Bangkok, take a flight to Chiang Mai (as that is where some of the volunteer work I want to do is based), then do Laos, Cambodia and Indonesia. From Bali, I would take a flight back up Thailand and do the islands then. I want to do the islands in thailand really badly, but it seems silly to go to Chiang Mai first, then go to the islands, and then go to the other countries.
Your suggestions on Laos were very helpful, thanks alot! Reply to this

13 years ago, October 19th 2010 No: 13 Msg: #121353  
It looks like you are doing some good research on alternatives. Yes, going from Bangkok to Chiang Mai first and doing the southern Thailand islands last is a good alternative. My only reason for suggesting the first option is that you save the cost of a flight; which on the other hand isn't that expensive. The benefit of your alternative gives you a good rest towards the end of your trip when you need it, rather than at the beginning when you may not. Although having just come from Indonesian beaches (including possibly the Gilis near Bali), you may not need more beaches...something to think about when ordering your destinations. Of course, the Thailand beaches (especially the night life) are an entirely different experience than those of Indonesia.

An alternative to flying from Bangkok to Chiang Mai would be day train to Ayutthaya (ancient capital destroyed by the Burmese) and Lopburi (town overrun with monkeys), the overnight sleeper express train from Lopburi to Chiang Mai. You won't save that much (the cost of a night in a hostel and a bit in the fare), but these two stops on the way are worth it, and many people enjoy the experience...just don't use the toilets on the train if you don't have to.

As for searching for airfares, I usually go to kayak.com that draws from all other travel sites. If you want to go into greater depth, you can then go to the various Asian airlines own sites to see whether they offer any special deals. Cathay Pacific, Korean Airlines, and Asiana seem to offer the lowest costs from the U.S., but Kayak has access to their fares so this may not be worth the effort. Kayak also gives you fares within Asia, but I would go directly to the Air Asia site for these flights. Also, using frequent flyer miles from the U.S. to Asia gives you the best return for your miles, and a free stop over enroute which would allow you to see Japan or China. Reply to this

13 years ago, November 2nd 2010 No: 14 Msg: #122220  
Hi KaitlynKn, don't worry because traveling southeast Asia is safe. Reply to this

13 years ago, November 3rd 2010 No: 15 Msg: #122327  
Thanks for all your replies! My plane ticket is for January 14th into Bangkok. Ill update on how it is going! 😊 Thanks again! Reply to this

13 years ago, November 10th 2010 No: 16 Msg: #122744  
Hi! Ive been looking into flights on AirAsia, and I cant really figure out how I would get flights in between any of these countries, as most of them only seem to fly into the main cities of Bangkok and Malaysia. Would it be best to take an overland route from Laos to Vietnam? I also want to get from Cambodia to Indonesia, but can't find a flight. Any suggestions? Reply to this

13 years ago, November 10th 2010 No: 17 Msg: #122751  
To repeat what I said in my post above, overland from Laos to Hanoi, Vietnam is reported by many bloogers to be very difficult. You can fly Vietnam Airlines from either Luang Prabang or Vientiene to Hanoi for $200, or Lao Aviation from Vientiene to Hanoi for $161 per kayak.com (check yourself for the latest fare for the dates you want). You can fly Air Asia from Siem Reap to Kuala Lumpur for $101 and from Kuala Lumpur to many destinations in Indonesia (e.g. $75 to Bali on way). Reply to this

13 years ago, November 11th 2010 No: 18 Msg: #122772  
Also look at Tiger airways as they have a sale on at the moment. With them, you would fly into Singapore and then out to Indonesia.

You will have to change somewhere. Reply to this

13 years ago, December 12th 2010 No: 19 Msg: #124618  
Hey guys- Is there a way to get around the return ticket needed to enter Thailand? Reply to this

13 years ago, December 12th 2010 No: 20 Msg: #124619  
Get a visa. You can get a 60 day visa from your nearest Thai embassy.

It isn't getting into Thailand that is the problem, it's getting on the plane in your home country. Many airlines don't let you board without the correct documentation.

You could book a flight out of Thailand within 30 days and just not use it too. Reply to this

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