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Help name Aspiring Nomad and Jenni Jens baby girl

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Born today: 21st April 2010
14 years ago, April 22nd 2010 No: 21 Msg: #109383  
oh!yeah, still with a 'K'. That's also out then.

hmmm ... another one, Althaia (just another form of Althea) ~~
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14 years ago, April 22nd 2010 No: 22 Msg: #109385  
I wouldn't go so far as to say that the name a child is given leads them down a similar path as a famous name holder, but I also wouldn't discount the influence that peoples reactions to their name have in shaping their personality. I remember the media flurry about this family who gave their children Nazi-themed names. And I graduated high school with a Superman. Nice guy, extremely charismatic - which I wonder if it isn't a byproduct of having to be that way so as not to get taunted earlier in life.

Oh, really like the name Kaia. You could always spell it Caia, as phonetically isn't doesn't sound harsh unless actually written with a 'K'.

And our cat is named Raina. We were originally thinking something along the Egyptian lines, as her coat is a dark tortoiseshell which reminded us of black statuary, but those seemed forced so we finally decided upon a variation off the Spanish 'reina' (for queen, because she does have a demanding presence), which apparently also means 'night' in Hindi, with a nod to rainy Seattle (even more appropriate once we discovered her obsession with water and rain-droplets). So now when I meet women named Raina (which isn't that often, although there is one my current program) I always want to say "Oh, that's the name of my cat!" but I don't, because even though I would be saying it filled with pride, most people aren't that nutty about their pets and would likely feel insulted. Andras thinks I treat Raina a bit too literally like our "little girl" - which is in fact what I call her most of the time, but her nickname is technically 'Booger' or 'Boog' as she got a cold right when we first adopted her and is always underfoot.

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14 years ago, April 22nd 2010 No: 23 Msg: #109386  

I just wonder if Adolf is still on the "accepted list"...


If it is, then I dont think anybody chooses it. I have never met an Adolf here. I dont think the name Hitler is used as a surname anymore either, because I have never met anyone of that name.
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14 years ago, April 22nd 2010 No: 24 Msg: #109387  

I remember the media flurry about this family who gave their children Nazi-themed names.


My boyfreind has an original leather coat, that was worn by the motor cycle nazis during WW2. When he wears it, nobody will sit beside him on the train and people look at him warily as he walks past on the street. Maybe having the same name as a notorious Nazi would cause people to give one a lot of space too. Reply to this

14 years ago, April 22nd 2010 No: 25 Msg: #109391  
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I remember the story about the Adolf Hitler baby, so I must have been in the states at the time. I thought it was wonderfully ironic that in their defense the family lauded freedom of speech and the tenets of multiculturalism in choosing the name, and then you discover one of their other kids is called JoyceLynn Aryan Nation Campbell! Reply to this

14 years ago, April 22nd 2010 No: 26 Msg: #109392  

For reasons such as this, I can see why there is a list of allowed names in Germany. Maybe names such as Adolf and Hitler are no longer allowed, and that is why there seems to be nobody in Germany called them.
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14 years ago, April 22nd 2010 No: 27 Msg: #109394  
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Perhaps a list of 'un-allowed' names would be better (and hopefully shorter), though I'm still not personally advocating the state imposing limits on such "choices". I spoke to an Israeli once and he said that in Israel, as in many countries, you could name your kids anything you wanted, except for the ONE obvious exception.

I actually feel that naming a child something as revealing as Jocelynn Aryan Nation Campbell is a government's dream. It would say a whole lot more about a persons upbringing than a Bob Smith. I can't see Jocelynn garnishing much sympathy from the judge or jury if she were ever to find herself charged for a race related crime (a real bummer if she was actually innocent!). But then she does have the option of changing her name when she's older. Many countries do not 'allow' 'their' citizens that option. Reply to this

14 years ago, April 22nd 2010 No: 28 Msg: #109396  

...and hopefully shorter...


Well, no it wouldn't because there are a lot of kids born here, who have foreign parents. They are not allowed to give their child a Turkish name for example, as its first name. What Turkish parents do is choose a name form the list and make it the first name. Then they give the child a middle name which is Turkish, because this is allowed, but they also call the child the Turkish name day to day, rather than the German name.

All foreign names would have to go on the unallowed list. Maybe to prevent parents calling their kid 'Aryan Nation' in another language.

except for the ONE obvious exception.


Adolf?

Many countries do not 'allow' 'their' citizens that option.


Somebody from Romania told me it is like that there. But, it is allowed to change, if a person has a good reason, such as their name is 'Pigs Bottom' or 'Bad Finger' or whatever.

Some people in The Netherlands have some strange surnames. Apparently, the French ordered them to all have surnames which they were allowed to choose themselves, at some stage in history when they could wield such power there. Some resented it and now their family has a name like Pancake. There is even one family name that translates to English as B*llocks. Reply to this

14 years ago, April 22nd 2010 No: 29 Msg: #109402  
Indeed. Names reveal much about the parents in a "taste classifies the classifier" sort of way.

And my advanced apologies for completely hijacking this tread but apparently today, oddly enough, those children are back in the news. Ah New Jersey, what other ways will you think of to embarrass yourself next?

Mel, I think Hungary has similar restrictions on names - I believe the formal intent is to maintain heritage and culture, or something of the sort, through the preservation of the Magyar language.

My adviser grew up with friends named Potato and Tomato. Sounds silly in English, but in other languages names like those are/were/could be considered exotic and modern.
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14 years ago, April 22nd 2010 No: 30 Msg: #109408  
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I think freedom of speech can sometimes be a double-edged sword. For example just about anyone is allowed to buy a TV station or newspaper in the US and broadcast any old freedom of speech they like, isn't that right Rupert Murdoch. Though of course even he is forced to put profit before propaganda in China, the poor man.

And then of course it allows just about anyone to hijack a thread;-)

Maybe we should pick a culturally appropriate Canadian name. Whatever that is? Pamela (of Anderson fame) perhaps? Maple???
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14 years ago, April 22nd 2010 No: 31 Msg: #109411  
I like Saoirse (Irish for freedom). Reply to this

14 years ago, April 22nd 2010 No: 32 Msg: #109412  

Now, do I want to read about those kids in that link above, or would it be too head melting, because I would make the mistake of trying to make sense of those parents? Maybe tomorrow.

Apparently, my name in English can be bee or the name of a flowering herb. I am not sure if I get to choose which, or if one or the other is always associated with my name. At worst, I suppose there are worst things than being called bee.

I think freedom of speech can sometimes be a double-edged sword.


Well, it can be used, or it can be abused. For example, we as moderators here often get spammers who want to argue that we are violating their free speech rights, but they rarely/never take into account the level of nuisance they are causing to the freedom and enjoyment of other visitors to TravelBlog.

And then of course it allows just about anyone to hijack a thread;-)


This crime should probably be punished, but I am getting too sleepy to think up a punishment which would both punish and give me some personal entertainment. Thoughts about changing nick names are sort of comming to mind. My boyfriend is a member of a site where the moderators do that when members get mouthy with them. They changed my boyfriends nick name to 'Will work for food'

Pamela (of Anderson fame) perhaps?


No, breasts that size apparently cause backache. You can't do that to your daughter.
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14 years ago, April 22nd 2010 No: 33 Msg: #109413  

This crime should probably be punished



You can't punish me, I'm am an American! I will appeal until the day after forever! Innocent until proven guilty! I'll sue for infringements upon my rights! 😉 And besides, I would work for food, in fact, I more or less already do (did someone say free food in the office?).

Canadian names, eh? An assortment of French, British, Inuit and American. Victoria? Nukka?? It means "little sister," but actually doesn't sound very pleasing as a given name. Acer is the Latin genus of maple, but sounds more appropriate for a male.

You realize you now have an international community eager to know what you choose. The pressure is mounting. How exciting - a new person, getting a name.







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14 years ago, April 23rd 2010 No: 34 Msg: #109422  
So........
What's the verdict?
I like Maple actually, it's cute.

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14 years ago, April 23rd 2010 No: 35 Msg: #109426  

Anyway, we've to make a decision by the end of the today



I think there's already a name by now 😱 Reply to this

14 years ago, April 23rd 2010 No: 36 Msg: #109429  

You can't punish me, I'm am an American! I will appeal until the day after forever!


I back down immediately. Mostly, because the relentless appeals would essentially be more punishing for me than any punishment I manage to issue would be to you. :D

You realize you now have an international community eager to know what you choose. The pressure is mounting. How exciting - a new person, getting a name.


This will involve some diplomatic wriggling, on Jasons part, when he has to reject all but one of the choices. Maybe the most diplomatic option is to not reveal the name at all. Ten years from now, all Jasons blogs will still be referring to his daughter, who has not yet been named.
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14 years ago, April 23rd 2010 No: 37 Msg: #109486  
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Since the US hasn't joined The International Criminal Court it seems Stephanie's crimes will go unpunished.

I like the idea of the name Saoirse, even though I probably couldn't pronounce it. Yet I'm not sure a non-Celtic British passport holder, despite their political leanings, would breeze through life without a few raised eyebrows:
Saoirse

Anyway, she now has a lovely name. But as has been eloquently noted;
"The Pressure is mounting",
"maybe the most diplomatic option is not to reveal the name at all"

She is such a beautiful girl I wouldn’t want those little cheeks to be tarnished by your inevitable disappointment;-)

Jennifer is allowed out of hospital tomorrow; I’ll point her in the direction of this forum, and since she has such impeccable moral standing you can rest assured she won’t wish to partake in such ethical deception!
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14 years ago, April 23rd 2010 No: 38 Msg: #109492  
I was about to warn you about what the word saoirse is often associated with, but I see from the link above, that you already know. The little profette would turn out to be a real handful if you call her that.

You could call her all the names suggested. I have a string of names on my birth certificate, because of a certain amount of conflict about what I was to be called. The name I use is in fact not the first in the string.

The most aggressive conflicter about what I was to be called is the same name as the first on the string. She was pleased about it, until she discovered that my parents were not in fact going to call me it from day to day. Eventually, my parents were worn down by her, so one of my sisters has the same first name as I do. It has caused a lot of confusion for me and my sister, with mail and stuff. We used to fight over desirable mail, and we used to fight over undesirable mail for opposite reasons.

If my sister did not have those inconvenient morals, this same name thing would have been useful. She looks like I do, and she is ten years younger, but she would never loan me her passport or student ID so I could get those discounts and perks that under 26s often get. One time there was a really cool priced ticket to India for under 26s. I was tempted to borrow her passport and then put it back in its hiding place after my trip.
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14 years ago, April 24th 2010 No: 39 Msg: #109511  
Does she has a name yet or not? I would vote for Joy - you both have joy to have her and I'm sure she will bring you so much joy in life!!!!
Cheers,
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14 years ago, April 26th 2010 No: 40 Msg: #109596  

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