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Need Help Planning My South America Trip

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Basically I want to know where specifically in Brazil I should go to see the Amazon River/Rainforest/Brazilian Beaches. Also, I want you to analyze my trip so far to find any flaws and to see if it's efficient. And also any advice related to anything would be appreciated because I am 21 and have never traveled before, let alone solo.
14 years ago, March 25th 2010 No: 21 Msg: #107288  
Zuzu- thank you for your post.

I will make a couple copies of my passports – I didn’t think of that. So I should keep the real passport back at the hostel?
I do not have my MP tour booked – I plan on doing it by myself without an agency, sorry if I led you to believe I did. I don’t need to buy a phone because I unlocked mine, I just need to insert a foreign sim card.
I was planning on bringing a travel pillow, mosquito nets and things like that from home. Because I figure it would save me the hassle. Would this be too much stuff to pack? I’m guessing the pillow would take up too much space. As for the repellant, I’m told by many people that they couldn’t find 30+% DEET repellant in South America.

Do you mean drink coca tea for altitude sickness when I get to Lima? I will land in Lima first. Or do you mean Cusco because Cusco has a much higher elevation than Lima?

Hkwoody – you’re right I am. I’m sure I will enjoy the trip once I arrive there though. To my credit, some of the things that I am listing is not because of worry, but because I want to get the best deal possible and not have to overspend and pay a premium because I did not plan ahead of time. Also I simply want to have my thoughts straight and written down. Thanks for the reference!
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14 years ago, March 26th 2010 No: 22 Msg: #107357  
Lima is sea level, so no altitude sickness there!

Cusco is quite tough and it took us a good three or four days to acclimatise. It's not too bad, though, just a bit harder walking upstairs and the like.

Really do try not to worry too much, though, as there are so many tourists in SA that it's easy to get good food and water. Just relax and have fun!

We travelled from Colombia all the way down to Ushuaia in Argentina dn back up to Rio. We took 140 doxy tablets with us for malaria and didn't take a single one - ended up binning them in Buenos Aires. The places we went had mosquitos but they weren't malarial. We just took the wearing clothes at night and using spray precautions. The side effects of the tablets were greater than the risk of malaria!

We met a few people carrying mosquito net and moaning about them being a waste of space in their bags!
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14 years ago, March 28th 2010 No: 23 Msg: #107424  
Ben and Clare - Thank you for the tips - I know I will relax and have fun once I am there!

PANTANAL UPDATE:

This portion of the trip seems very expensive – especially if I want to stay over a week.

Agency:

BrazilNatureTours: $1167 4D/3N north - transpantaneira

PantanalNatureTour: 1200$ 6D/5N - terrain : north – transpantaneira road (via car) + boat trip in porto jofre

JaguarEcologicalReserve – 250$ per day north – transpantaneira road (via truck) + boat trip in porto jofre

PantanalExpeditions – 350$ per day terrain: not sure yet

PantanalTrackers: 3100$ 8D/7N terrain : north – transpantaneira

FocusTours: 4000+ (too expensive) 5D/4N

Caiman: 4500+ 4D/3N (too expensive)

Dehouche: 5500+ (too expensive)

From this list – in my opinion, the obvious choice would by the second one, PantanalNatureTours – it seems that it is the most bang for the buck. I may very well do that unless someone has a better suggestion?

There is one alternative – I have been in communication with Douglas Trent, who I believe is the owner of Focus Tours – I told him that I cannot afford his tours but he offered me an alternative.

He says that if I can commit to staying for at least 2.5 weeks – he can arrange a volunteer position at one of the lodges (http://www.pousadacantoarancua.com.br/) this ranch is only a few KM from the road (I think he means the Transpanteneira road) – during this volunteering – I would give English classes and also help with anything else, including taking care of tourists. I wouldn’t clean since they have maids already, but I would help “clear trails, maybe paint some rooms, who knows. You could put up English signs in the rooms about meal times, etc.”

So I don’t think it would be too bad. He would charge me 75$ for the costs he incurs in time and phone calls to set it up, which makes sense.

This sounds like a great experience - and if I had more time in my schedule, I would not hesitate to do it. I asked him if I’ll be able to see wildlife while I am volunteering and he said that I’ll be able to explore the large ranch and see its wildlife, but unless I have a car it will be hard to get out and explore other areas – there are jaguars in the vicinity but I would need to be fairly luck to spot one. I would need to get out and look for them. He said that he could also reserve several hotels for me and a rental car and I could spend my time traveling the Transpantaniera looking for wildlife. The hotels would cost about $150 including the meals – and he would charge me $250 for setting all this up. This seems like a good deal compared to the other tour agencies, but I’m going to ask for an itinerary if there is any.

So basically he is proposing “either you do a volunteer stint, spending very little money, OR, don't, and instead spend your money on a rental car and stay in a few different lodges.”

My dilemma is this: do I commit 2.5 weeks in doing the volunteering and pay very little – do some work, gain some experience interacting with the ranch and teaching them English. However, I would probably not see any jaguars, nor many other wildlife, which is one of the main reasons I am coming in the first place. Plus, I think 2.5 weeks is too long, it’s basically half my trip. I think if he agrees to bring it down to 2 weeks I can consider it more seriously. Right now, I think I would rather do the 150$ a day that he has offered or the $1200 PantanalNature tour – what do you guys think I should do?
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14 years ago, March 28th 2010 No: 24 Msg: #107436  
To get the most from your time in the Pantanal you need to have a professional guide who knows where to go and what to look for, even then there are no guarantees - especially for the rare animals like jaguars. You're unlikely to see much just driving around on your own.
With the limited time you have my opinion is you should pay for one of the tours and not bother wasting any of that time on doing teaching / handyman jobs. Reply to this

14 years ago, April 2nd 2010 No: 25 Msg: #107767  
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Hi Kenny!

I also think, that you worry little too much. But on the other hand, I understand, it will be your big trip and you want to be prepared! Thumbs up for that.

Now I have never been traveling over South America, but I know a lot of our users have been traveling there. In fact, Stevie is right now traveling the South America: his journey is prety spectaculous and I think, you might enjoy reading his blog. http://steviep.ontheroad.to/americas. He was sailing over from the Grand Canaria to Venezuela and is now in Buenos Aires. You can even comment on his blog, or ask him specific questions about certain places. I bet he will be happy to answer them.

Just to continue on the conversation about laptop: I know Stevie was wondering the same think and decided not to take his laptop with him. Instead he bought the iPhone and downloaded all the important iPhone apps. (I can talk about good iPhone travel apps for hours, just ask. :-)) The question is, where he stores all his pictures. I know he has some of them on the blog, but he might be using the portable storage as well. If you haven't tried Picasa or similar online storage, consider that. I use Picasa all the time and I love it!

As you were concerned about the internet connection - according to what Stevie mentioned, there is always WI-FI in the hostels/hotels and at least one computer, you can use to call over the Skype. Surely, with the iPhone, you can just catch the WI-FI and call over Skype directly from the phone. And it works really well!

Hope I was able to help at least a little.

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14 years ago, April 8th 2010 No: 26 Msg: #108284  
To hkwoody (Martin Woodford)
You mentioned that you locked up your laptop at the hostel in the lockers. Did you need to bring your own padlock? or were they provided by the hostel?

do you know if it would be worthwhile to bring our own padlock?

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14 years ago, April 9th 2010 No: 27 Msg: #108309  
Hi Kathie
Yes take your own padlock. For peace of mind make sure it's a sturdy one, but not too big otherwise the shackle won't fit through the holes in the bit on the locker. The one we used had a 5mm thick shackle which was just about right.
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14 years ago, May 5th 2010 No: 28 Msg: #110265  
Mishka - thanks for the help!

Update on my trip:

I am leaving May 17th and arriving at Lima, Peru. I am leaving July 12th from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil and coming home. The tickets were bought a month ago. I’m going to start packing soon. Please let me know if you think something is unnecessary, and more importantly, if I am omitting anything. Also please let me know if I’m not allowed to bring these things on the plane, cause I have no idea. Keep in mind I haven’t bought some of these things yet, although I must do that soon. Thanks!

In no particular order, here is what I have decided to pack so far:

• Mp3 player, charger, 2 sets of headphones
• Lots of 50+%!D(MISSING)EET of insect repellant.
• Some sort of travelers backpack
• SD Card Reader + SD cards + 8 GB flash drive
• Camera/charger
• Electrolyte powder
• Mosquito Net
• A few sets of clothes (how many sets should I bring? Will I be cold?)
• Binoculars
• Spanish – English dictionary + Portuguese – English Dictionary
• Travel pouch, two wallets
• Padlock
• 2 pairs of shoes, one for dry land and one for water
• Hand sanitizer/wet wipes
• Alcohol rub, malarial medication, cipro, pepto-bismol, Imodium, Tylenol
• Travel pillow, towel, razor
• Flash light, batteries, adapters and converters for electronics
• Sun hat, sunscreen, umbrella

That’s all I can think of right now. Is all of this necessary? I don’t know how I would fit all this into one backpack. Should I have a second bag and just leave it at the hostel?

Here is my schedule for the actual trip:

May 17th – May 21st – Lima
May 22nd – June 7th – Cusco (Machu Picchu, Manu, Lake Titicaca, Paragliding)
June 8th – July 12th – Brazil (Pantanal in Campo Grande, Rio de Janeiro, and possibly Iguazu Falls)

Things I have done:

• Shots / malaria medication (doxycycline).
• ISIC card/travel insurance.
• Brazilian Visa
• Hostel reservations for the hostel in Lima.

Things I still have to do:

• Register with the embassies in both countries.
• Make copies of my passport.
• Carefully read the lonely planet guidebook.
• Finalize the date for the Pantanal.
• Figure out how to get from Peru to Brazil
• Learn more Spanish and Portuguese (haha I am so screwed)
• Buy foreign SIM card for phone (will do this in airport at Lima/Brazil)

I think the main thing I need help with right now is how to get from Peru to Campo Grande. I’m hearing that direct flights from Lima to Campo Grande can cost $1000. I do not want to pay that much. I’m hearing cheaper alternatives if I go through Bolivia (i.e. Cusco > Santa Cruz and then bus it to Campo Grande). Can anyone help me out with more information on this? Also, if I do this, will I have to obtain a Bolivian visa?

Thanks for the help everyone – this trip will be a memorable experience! Reply to this

14 years ago, May 11th 2010 No: 29 Msg: #110625  
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Hi, for Cusco, Peru i would recommend you www.amaruhostal.com, it was a very good hostel close to the main square and pretty

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13 years ago, May 15th 2010 No: 30 Msg: #110949  
Good luck amigo, your thread has answered a couple of my questions also. Thank you. I hope everything goes well for you in Latin America and bring back some good pictures for your blog! Would be amazing to see! Take care bud. Reply to this

13 years ago, May 17th 2010 No: 31 Msg: #111153  
Hello, I am new here and tried posting my question on the South America thread, but it's saying it's a private forum, so I apologize ahead of time for posting in this thread.

My question: I will be traveling from Houston to Lima, Peru mid-June and will be traveling for 10 weeks through Bolivia, Argentina and maybe Brazil. Should I book my flight back to Houston from Lima or from Rio de Janeiro? Maybe even out of Buenos Aires? The flight out of Rio or BA is only $100-$150 more than a roundtrip in and out of Lima.

Possible routes? Peru>Bolivia>Argentina>Brazil>Houston or Peru>Bolivia>Argentina>Houston or Peru>Bolivia>Argentina>Brazil>Peru or Peru>Bolivia>Argentina>Peru or Peru>Bolivia>Peru

I will be on a relatively small budget as I'm covering myself and my brother. It's his first time backpacking and he'll only be there for the first 2 weeks, but this affects my plans after he's gone in terms of finances. Is it cheaper to use buses/trains back to Peru or more expensive? Is it worth it paying for a visa to Brazil or should I just plan a different trip at a different time to Brazil?

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13 years ago, May 25th 2010 No: 32 Msg: #111740  
Hi Pantsonfiretravelbug!

I'm currently travelling in South America and have been for almost three months. I'm thinking if you only have 10 weeks, you are better off leaving out Brazil as there is SO much to do and see there, and especially if you have to pay for a visa, then it's worth spending some time in the country. I spent 5 weeks there and it was nowhere near enough time. Also, you mention you are on a relatively small budget and Brazil is VERY expensive. I found some things to be as expensive as back home in London, UK! I wouldn't really recommend travelling all the way back to Peru with such a time restraint, especially if you have found good flights back to Houston out of BA.

I would personally recommend Houston - Peru - Bolivia - Argentina - Houston. Depending on what you want to see, here are some recommendations on places to visit (which could provide you with a possible route plan too)

PERU
Lima
Nazca - Fly a local plane to see the infamous Nazca Lines
Cuzco - Machu Pichu (either do the Inca Trail to there or get the train for a day trip)
Puno - Edge of Lake Titicaca
Cross the border there into Bolivia

BOLIVIA
From Lake Titicaca (Copacabana), head to La Paz, the capital
Rurrenabaque - Jungle or Pampas tours into the Amazon basin
Either back to La Paz/Santa Cruz/Sucre
From there, go to Potosi - Do mine tours
From there, go to Uyuni and do a tour of the largest salt flats in the world
Head down to Villazon, the border of Argentina (you'll need to get a bus or a train from Potosi to Villazon via Tupiza, recommend the train, only remaining train service in Bolivia)
Cross the border at Villazon

ARGENTINA
You'll be at La Quiaca on the Argentinian side once you've crossed the border
From there, get a bus to Salta/Cordoba/Mendoza - all really nice cities with lot's of outdoor adventure things to do locally
Depending on your city, you could get a bus to Iguazu Falls. They fall in both Argentina and Brazil, though I only did the Argentinian side which is the bigger and better side. Don't take a tour, so easy to take a local bus and walk through the National Park as everything is signposted
From there, get a bus to Buenos Aires - party, party, party (make sure you visit La Bomba Del Tiempo on Monday nights, great live drum show, very hippy-ish atmosphere but a great mix of tourists and locals turn up)

Bolivia is a very cheap country, Peru not so bad, Argentina slightly more expensive. Bus travel is very comfortable and reliable in Argentina & Peru. Bolivia, not so comfortable, and can end up overcrowded with locals. Not many train services throughout South America so buses will be your main transportation. South America is a vast continent so be prepared to travel LONG hours.

Hope this helps and if you need any other information, just let me know! Good luck on your travels and ENJOY! Reply to this

13 years ago, June 12th 2010 No: 33 Msg: #113046  
.We are 2 photographers who had the best job of the world in South America 😊) We had to travel around and take pictures of hostels in Argentina, Peru, Brazil, Uruguay and Chile for CheLagarto Hostels. (www.chelagarto.com)
We were payed by 2 months of food and accommodation per person. All together we have the chance to stay in any of these hostels as long as we want with breakfast and dinner included.

Our problem is that we must go back to Hungary to our family and this is why we can not use this chance at all.
If we had to start a new life these places would be definitely the best since they are all in a very good location and climate (from glaciers to tropical beaches there is everything 😊
If anybody is interested to get this opportunity we are ready to pass it on to one or max. of two
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13 years ago, June 13th 2010 No: 34 Msg: #113085  
Peter, I deleted your duplicate posts. Please only post once with each request/suggestion/offer.

Thanks

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