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Tierra del Fuego to Buenos Aires

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Looking for information/suggestions on a possible route from Tierra del Fuego to Buenos Aires.
15 years ago, August 16th 2008 No: 1 Msg: #45670  
Hi all,

I am planning to go to Usuahia around the 17th of December and then make my way up to Buenos Aires, where I have my flight back home on the 15th January. As well as Tierra del Fuego I would like to see the areas around El Califate and Bariolche and possibly the Peninsula Valdes but other suggestions are welcome. Any ideas on how my route could go and how long is worth staying in each place (considering my time-frame)? I would rather travel overland but will fly when necessary.
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15 years ago, August 16th 2008 No: 2 Msg: #45671  
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Here's how I would do it:

From Ushuaia fly or take a bus to El Calafate. 1 day here is enough to see the glacier. El Chalten is fantastic, if you like trekking I-d stay 3 or 4 days. From either El Chalten or El Calafate take the Ruta 40 trip with Chalten Travel up to Bariloche. It takes 2 days and it's very slow travel along poor roads, but it's a very remote and beautiful area. You also have the option of visiting Cueva de los Manos, a UNESCO site in the middle of nowhere.

If you have time stop at El Bolson, 2 hours south of Bariloche. Scenery is equally as good as Bariloche and it's less touristy. Bariloche is worth a few days too, though try stay outside the centre, maybe around Lago Gutierrez.

From Bariloche or El Bolson take overnight bus to Puerto Madryn or Trelew (it passes through all 4 towns). You can see penguins in Punta TOmba near Trelwe and whales in Peninsula Valdes near Madryn. From there either fly or bus to BA.

To save time take overnight buses, they are generally very comfortable iN Argentina and good value. We flew the Calafate to Ushuaia leg as you have to change buses in Rio Gallegos and it's a long trip.

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15 years ago, August 16th 2008 No: 3 Msg: #45673  
Sounds like a good plan. Thanks! Is it easy to find buses/flights at the last minute or should I book in advance? Reply to this

15 years ago, August 16th 2008 No: 4 Msg: #45675  
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Usually no problem though for the overnight buses maybe reserve in advance, especially as you're on a short trip. The Ruta 40 trip is with a tour agency so has to be booked in advance. Reply to this

15 years ago, August 16th 2008 No: 5 Msg: #45677  
Thanks a lot. Enjoy the rest of your trip! Reply to this

15 years ago, August 19th 2008 No: 6 Msg: #46030  
Hi Lapamela,

Do it overland, time permitting.
You'll get the feeling of Patagonia!...flying you'll see nothing.

Here're some links to help you plan your journey back to Buenos Aires...








Hope this will help, but if unsure just contact me.

Happy travels,
Daniel


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15 years ago, August 19th 2008 No: 7 Msg: #46042  
Hi Daniel,

Thanks for the advice and the very useful links. I will try to travel overland as much as I can. It will all depend on whether it's doable in one month. Or I can change my return ticket for an extra $50.

Cheers

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15 years ago, August 19th 2008 No: 8 Msg: #46074  
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I agree with Barry. I did pretty much the exact route he did but going in the opposite direction. Ushuaia is quite pretty and so plan for a few days there with Tierra del Fuego, ski hill hike, and maybe boat tour on the agenda. Then I would catch a bus to Puerto Natales if you have the time....go check out the gorgeous Torres del Paine. I did a 5 day trek there but you can do a 1 day tour if you don't want to trek (or lack the time). Then you can catch a bus to El Calafate for the gorgeous Glacier Moreno. There is not much else to do here so like Barry mentioned, you can do it in one day....one night. Then catch a bus to El Chalten which is easily my favorite stop in all of Patagonia. There are tons of day and night treks here and the scenery is spectacular. It is quite a 'chill' little town tucked into the mountains if you like that sort of thing. Then catch a bus from there to Bariloche up the Route 40....this direct bus only runs twice weekly so work your schedule around that....it is well worth it. You can take a bus on another day but it takes you back down to El Calafate and then over to the east side and then up to Bariloche....nicer roads but the Route 40 has spectacular scenery. From El Chalten to Bariloche along the route 40 it takes 34 hours. As bad as that sounds....it was one of my most favorite bus journeys. You can stop in El Bolson before Bariloche....I didn't stop there so I can't offer any advice but I heard it is well worth the stop. Unfortunately, the Chilean volcano that was erupting while i was there was spewing all of its ash into El Bolson (we even had to wear masks on the bus when driving through the area). Bariloche is really touristy but is surrounded by the gorgeous scenery of the Lake District. Stay at the 1004 Hostel here....the view is beautiful and the hostel is really nice. I rented a car here for 5 days and drove all around the Lake District...mostly on the Chilean side...well worth the car rental and time if you have it. Climbing up mount Otto is nice too (in Bariloche)....beautiful scenery from up there. Then I would catch a bus East to Puerto Madryn. I rented a car here too since it was cheaper than doing the 'tour' to the Valdes Peninsula (with 5 of us in the car). We drove all around the Peninsula and saw some awesome wildlife and then I stayed in Puerto Piramides for 3 days. Most of the whale watching tours are out of this tiny town. There were a few whales in the area when I was there (pre-season) and I could watch them by climbing up on the cliffs beside the beach. I was with one other person and we were the only two tourists there for the entire 3 days....a rare and awesome experience. Then from there, I would catch a bus to Buenos Aires.

Hope that helps....that is what I did and it was a fabulous experience. 😊 Reply to this

15 years ago, August 19th 2008 No: 9 Msg: #46075  
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i wanted to add....based on some of Barry's comments.....I did not take the bus down the Route 40 through a tour agency. I just booked the bus at the bus station that same day and there were only about 10 of us on the entire bus for the entire journey. it was the same bus that the tour company books but it is way cheaper to just book the bus from the bus station. It might take some asking around but you can do it....

Also, regarding the trip in between Ushuaia and El Calafate....it is really not bad. I took a bus from Puerto Natales to Ushuaia and it was only about 9 hours if i recall. You do switch buses in Rio Gallegos (or Rio Grande....can't recall) but it was super simple and only took about 25 mins.

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15 years ago, August 19th 2008 No: 10 Msg: #46076  
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as for time line....everything i did (that i wrote in my first message) took 35 days. That included getting stranded in Ushuaia a few extra days. So you can definitely do it in a month....

If you have any more specific questions, feel free to ask me. Patagonia is awesome! :P Reply to this

15 years ago, August 20th 2008 No: 11 Msg: #46089  
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Just to expand on what I wrote earlier, if you do go to El Bolson, try hiring a car for a few days to visit Los Alerces National Park. There's only one unpaved road going through the park, meaning it doesn't get too many visitors, but there are some nice hotels, and great hiking, especially the trail around Lago Verde, and the hike up the mountain opposite the main lake.

On the way back you could stop at Trevelin, our favourite of the Welsh towns in Patagonia. There is a cool museum there run by the grand daughter of the town's founder, and she has some great stories and brings the history alive (if you can understand Spanish, she speaks a little english).

In El Bolson, too, there are excellent day hikes, to Cerro Piltriquitron, to nearby waterfalls, and to Lago Puelo. The tourist info office in El Bolson is one of the best in Argentina and can give you lots of useful maps, etc. Lago Puelo National. I'd highly recommend El Bolson, better, in my opinion, and much cheaper than Bariloche.

If any of this interests you there is much more info about these places in my blogs. Reply to this

15 years ago, August 20th 2008 No: 12 Msg: #46137  
Great tips, guys, thank you very much. Just one more question. Does anybody remember which days the Route 40 is running?

Cheers

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15 years ago, August 20th 2008 No: 13 Msg: #46139  
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if i recall....it was Tuesdays and Sundays.... Reply to this

15 years ago, August 20th 2008 No: 14 Msg: #46140  
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or tuesdays and saturdays.... Reply to this

15 years ago, August 20th 2008 No: 15 Msg: #46171  
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have a look at chalten travel's website for exact details (that´s the company i booked with). I think they had three departures a week with departures every 2nd day (starting tuesday) from Bariloche going south and every second day (starting monday) from El Chalten going north.

They also so an optional worthwhile sidetrip to la Cueva de los Manos, a remote site near Perito Moreno. Not sure if you can do this travelling independently on Ruta 40. Reply to this

15 years ago, August 20th 2008 No: 16 Msg: #46177  
Thanks guys. Reply to this

15 years ago, October 14th 2008 No: 17 Msg: #51610  
barry,

with the ruta 40 trip can you get off in towns and get the next bus coming through or do you complete it in 2 days.? Reply to this

15 years ago, October 14th 2008 No: 18 Msg: #51612  
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I'm not sure if they'll let you wait around for the next bus, you'd need to ask the agency.
Chalten Travel do stop in Perito Moreno town overnight and there is also a worthwhile optional side trip to the Cave of the Hands. Another agency that does the trip includes tours to one of the remote national parks near Perito Moreno (forgotten name).

If you do want to stop off, try doing what Kathy did (see messge 9) and wait around for buses at the stations. Reply to this

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