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Should Smoking be Banned?

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Are you a smoker? Should tobacco be banned from sale? Any terrible smoking experiences?
14 years ago, August 28th 2009 No: 21 Msg: #84528  

13 years ago, February 4th 2011 No: 22 Msg: #128135  

New York City's parks, beaches and even Times Square will be off-limits to smokers under one of the nation's toughest anti-cigarette laws passed Wednesday by the city council.


NYC bans smoking in parks, Times Square

I personally think it is over the top to ban smoking in ourdoor places.

I was shocked when I was in India to meet a British guy who had been fined for smoking while walking down the street in Mumbai. I had just arrived in India, and had been doing the same. I hadnt heard yet about the new law and fine to go with it. The hostel people allowed people to smoke inside to avoid the police, which is certainly way worse than smoking outside as regards health issues. I thought, this law in India is way over the top, but now the same seems to be happening in New York.




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13 years ago, February 4th 2011 No: 23 Msg: #128139  
Nikki and I are non smokers (although I do enjoy the occasional cigar) & we both think smoking should be banned from restaurants regardless of if you're inside or at a table out in the open.

I don't think smoking should be banned but would sometimes think it should be regulated more. Reply to this

13 years ago, February 4th 2011 No: 24 Msg: #128171  
This is a very divisive topic... I fit firmly into the 'Smoking should be banned' category...

But... it's too easy for me to sit here all smug, without a chemical/physical/emotional addiction to nicotine/tobacco and say that.

Smokers know it's bad for them, they're adults (or should be) and can make the choice for themselves. What they do in the privacy of their own home or elsewhere where smokers are allowed is up to them. The problem I found is that these new laws banning smoking in public buildings is pushing smokers outside so now I have to walk through clouds of smoke on the pavement, and the litter.... don't even get me started on that!

I heard this once and it made me laugh... Does anyone watch Dragons Den? It's a show where people pitch their ideas/inventions to a group of investors (dragons) and try to get some financial backing to get it off the ground.

Inventor: So my idea is to get some of this tobacco plant, dry it, shred it, wrap it up in some paper/leaf, set fire to it then suck all the smoke into my lungs... you'll cough a bit first but you'll get used to it

Dragons: does it taste good

Inventor: Oh no it tastes terrible and will slowly destroy your sense of taste, dulling down the taste of everything else

Dragons: smells a bit doesn't it?

Inventor: Oh yeh, but you'll get used to it

Dragons: Is it cheap to produce?

Inventor: Really cheap to produce, but the government will tax the hell out of it making it prohibitively expensive

Dragons: Does it have any health benefits?

Inventor: Oh no... prolonged use will probably kill you!!!

Dragons: I think we're going to pass on this one...

😊

Mike




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13 years ago, February 7th 2011 No: 25 Msg: #128433  
I am a non-smoker and a nurse so you may figure out where my answer is heading.

The problem with smoking is that it infringes on those who make a choice to have a healthier life. Over the years they have proven that 2nd hand smoke is deadly. I'm certain many of you may know some one who has gotten lung cancer and never smoked-- it happened to my Aunt. Not a single cigarette in her life but she lived with a cigar smoker.

I would like to make a correction to a statement someone made previously-- Cancer cells do not naturally exist in the body but some cells are genetically pre-dispositioned to become abnormal under certain circumstances. i.e. exposure to smoke, asbestos
Plus taking vitamin C and only smoking two cigarettes does not make you safe. There are many, many factors that must be taken into account.


I do not think it should be banned from sale. People should have the right to smoke if they want ------just not around non-smokers.

There is one state in the US that is trying to pass laws against smoking in your car if you have a child in the car.



It is going to be difficult to enforce the new rulings in Times Square but it would be great if they can pull it off. 2nd hand smoke can impact you outside. Reply to this

13 years ago, February 15th 2011 No: 26 Msg: #129121  
I'm am ex smoker but even as a smoker I believed it was my habit and always was mindful not to subject others to the my stupidity. Unfortunatly not many feel like this. And when it comes to smoking in same room/car ect as children ,I believe this should be a serious crime. Reply to this

13 years ago, February 15th 2011 No: 27 Msg: #129143  
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Problem with many of the statistics we have today is that they lie in the statistics. They will give you this over inflated number of people who die because of smoking. Problem is, if you are a smoker and die in a car crash... they include you as a smoking death. This is just one example. So when they tell me these things about second hand smoke, I have to wonder because they lied about the other. How do I know it was not caused by something else they were exposed to? Reply to this

13 years ago, February 16th 2011 No: 28 Msg: #129226  
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We have very graphic disgusting pics of smoking related images on cigarette packets here - I hate looking at them but....Im a smoker trying to quit the disgusting habit but im also a non drinker. Smoking is totally banned in restaurants and within 15m of any government building - and I work in one - so its becoming more and more of a way to be ostracised if you are a smoker. Thankfully the govt has also just subsidised things like nicotine patches which now cost $30 instead of $250 for a months supply. Im trying.

Lee Ann you do have a very valid point though - statistics by their very nature are flawed because humans working with stats cannot help but slant them towards their personal viewpoint. Reply to this

13 years ago, February 17th 2011 No: 29 Msg: #129293  
I've managed to quit for the 2nd time on this trip. 1st time managed two months, then a little cheap weed in Nepal got me started again. Now I have managed almost two months again, not too bad to be honest. Thing is, I have been spending my time quitting traveling in Indonesia, a country where smoking is a national pastime. people smoke everywhere, all the time: driving scooters, in buses, while eating, in bed, everywhere. So, the amount I have been passively smoking has enabled me to easily resist reaching for another cancer stick!

Should smoking be banned? Absolutely not. I am absolutely against any type of state control on personal liberty.
Should smokers be more considerate? Absolutely. But perhaps not so much in Indonesia, if they were I may not de feeling so healthy! Reply to this

13 years ago, March 10th 2011 No: 30 Msg: #130768  
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Smoking or no smoking must be an individual's choice as long as the individual is responsible enough. Its when we become irresponsible that smoking ban in public places must be enforced. Many countries have done that. I was in India earlier and now in Indonesia(Jakarta), both countries have banned it in public places.

These bans do help in some way or the other, like I need to go all the way down 9 floors to smoke and it certainly steals the charm out of smoking. Result - I barely go twice in a day.

Other measures, countries like Singapore and Australia levy heavy taxes. One pack of the stick in each of these countries is almost $12 each, you cant get more than a pack in the country, all sticks sold are stamped and if you are caught smoking un-stamped stick then heavy fine is imposed.

If you buy a pack of stick in Thailand, it has those ugly pics printed and I have seen it personally that I get that strange unhealthy feeling when I buy and smoke in Thailand. It surely helps cut down on consumption in some way. Reply to this

13 years ago, March 13th 2011 No: 31 Msg: #131020  
It's difficult for me to comment on whether smoking should be banned without sounding 'holier than thou'. You see, I'm a converted smoker. I quit voluntarily 30 years ago, having smoked 20 to 40 a day for almost 20 years - which I guess proves it's possible to quit if you really want to!

It cannot be denied that restaurants, pubs and other public places here in the UK are infinitely more enjoyable since no-smoking legislation was introduced. In the long term, this might lead to fewer deaths from passive smoking and a consequent reduction in the burden on our National Health Service too.

Tobacco duty increases annually, advertising tobacco products was banned nearly 10 years ago, cigarette packs have carried health warnings for ages, and the government now plans to restrict the display of cigarettes in shops. Put gruesome pictures on packs as well and some smokers may be peruaded to abandon the ghastly weed - yet, smokers will continue to smoke - as, indeed, is their right.

Smokers know smoking is bad for them. Smokers know smoking is bad for other people. Smokers accept the statistics that around 50%!w(MISSING)ill shorten their lives as a result - although they're convinced they are in the other 50%!!(MISSING)

Perhaps us non-smokers (or holier-than-thou converts) should encourage smokers to continue committing suicide by nicotine because they'll die earlier and thus be less of a burden on the state in their later years. Or, perhaps we should should encourage them to give up, thereby reducing the £5 or £6 a pack that goes straight into the government's pocket by way of tobacco duty (although other taxes would doubtless have to increase to compensate, even for the non-smokers!). Or, perhaps we should simply remind them that giving up the habit could not only prolong their lives but could save every 20-a-day smoker around £2,500 a year.

For me, I now realise that, while it was sometimes a mildly enjoyable drug, smoking was really just a ridiculous habit. If you listen to Bob Newhart's comic telephone conversation with Sir Walter Raleigh calling from somewhere in the Colonies, you'll probably agree. It went something along the lines of:

Hi Walt. You've got another winner for us?

It's called what Walt?

Toe-back-oh?

It's a kind of what Walt?

A leaf...? UhHuh.

So, what do you do with this leaf Walt?

You grind it up, take a pinch, and shove it up your nose Walt? HaHaHa! And it makes you sneeze Walt? HaHaHa!

Or you can chew it...? UhHuh.

Or you can shred it, roll it up in a piece of paper and put it between your lips...?

And what do you do with it then Walt?

You do what Walt...?

You set fire to it? HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa....

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13 years ago, March 14th 2011 No: 32 Msg: #131123  
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The pictures might work better than anything. We have had a program here in Montana to curb the Meth problem. On billboards and commercials there are before and after pictures and stories about girls whoring themselves to get the drug or how the drug made the violent against those they loved. The meth problem has decreased significantly with this campaign. Reply to this

13 years ago, March 14th 2011 No: 33 Msg: #131130  
I just got a phone call from somebody my boyfriend hangs out with in a heavy metal bar. She wants us to join her in a protest in the centre of Munich, Germany today for our right to smoke in bars in Munich. We are not going, because neither me nor my boyfriend think it is important that we are allowed to smoke in bars, even if it is more comfortable to smoke in them while sitting with a drink, than to go outside. Reply to this

12 years ago, July 11th 2011 No: 34 Msg: #140033  

"We are pleased that more and more people are being adequately warned about the dangers of tobacco use," said Ala Alwan, a WHO expert on noncommunicable diseases and mental health. "At the same time, we can't be satisfied that the majority of countries are doing nothing or not enough."


WHO wants more graphic warnings to cut smoking rates

In which countries is not enough being done to warn people, in your optinion?

One example that I remember is in the airport in Moscow a few years ago. There were open smoking areas right beside many of the airport toilets. Anyone who wanted to go into the toilets had to walk through a cloud of smoke. Seems like there is not much eductation about the unfairness of imposing passive smoking on non smokers.
[Edited: 2011 Jul 11 10:49 - Mell:49612 ]
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12 years ago, November 6th 2011 No: 35 Msg: #146536  
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12 years ago, November 7th 2011 No: 36 Msg: #146554  
I'm a non smoker and live in australia where it is becoming more and more difficult to smoke. Smokers can no longer smoke anywhere food is served including alfresco areas, 50m within a kids playground etc. Both my parents are smokers and my mum is a very pro smoker so i dont really mind if people smoke, as long as it is away from me. I do really enjoy that my hair and clothes no longer smell like smoke after visiting bars etc. Prices of cigarettes are expensive here with massive taxes and they have just put through cabinet that all branding will be removed in january 2013.

But i dont get why anyone would smoke now. We know so much about how bad they are and how addictive they are and take it up? Seems very odd to me... but i guess i'll be asking my kids the same thing in 10 years time. Reply to this

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