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Is Paris the whole of France?

Travelling without trying to get to know a place and the people living there.
7 years ago, March 10th 2012 No: 1 Msg: #153000  
Hi, bonjour,
Reading comments here on travelling to France I had the urge to ask this silly question because it makes me mad!!! I must be totally old fashioned... but when I travel, my main aim is to get to know the place and the people living there, at great length. It takes ages to even get a brief understanding of a place foreign to you. Anyone here saying they're planning to stay 24 hours in Paris so that they'll be able to say they've done France when they get back home... anyone doing that... how would you like it if I said I wanted to visit your place for... 2 hours? and ignore you and the rest of the country.

Sorry... I'm just angry to-day :-( Comments most welcome! Reply to this

7 years ago, March 10th 2012 No: 2 Msg: #153001  
Hello Frankie 😊

how would you like it if I said I wanted to visit your place for... 2 hours?

Ive been in places for long and short visits. I like both. Sometimes I go back for more visits, when I have more time and if I liked it there. I wouldnt take it personally if somebody visits the city I live in for just 2 hours. If they wanted my advice, I would tell them to spend the entire 2 hours in the old center of the city. Or else choose one museum they like and just go to that. You are right that they would not be able to get to know the whole country and the people here in just 2 hours and they dont have to, to get some value out of the visit.

It takes ages to even get a brief understanding of a place foreign to you.

I dont think everybody is travelling to gain a complete education about places. Some just want to pick and choose what they want to learn, or even just have fun for a while in an exotic place.

As regards Paris, I have been there several times. My first couple of visits were not longer than a few hours. At the time, I just wanted to have a coffee in Paris, before hopping on the night train to get to Marsailles which interested me more at the time. The coffee stop was very enjoyable, and I found those short visits to Paris worthwhile.

As regards learning about a place and its people, I think it is best to flirt around the world, until something educational grabs ones interest. Then it becomes very meaningful. For me, that educational aspect has been to do with human rights. I visit war museums, museums of human rights, prisons... I didnt set out to find these things, but somewhere along the way, I realised I care about them, and that I want to know what is going on with the various aspects of humanity in the various places.

Sorry... I'm just angry to-day

Yeah, I can certainly relate to that. It happens to me too, when others dont care about the things I care about, and even more so when people treat what I am interesed in without the respect that I think the human beings in the situations I describe deserve.

[Edited: 2012 Mar 10 20:28 - Mell:49612 ]
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7 years ago, March 13th 2012 No: 3 Msg: #153122  
I think say it all. People are different and travel for different reason. I have been to paris about 5 or 6 time and I am normally always staying at least 4 days. Paris has loads to offer. However, I been to other place for only a day...

No one can pretend to know a place in such a small time. It takes years to understand the way of life and even there you might never get it.

We only need to understand that some people don't wanna learn anything. All they want is a good time or make a dream come true like seeing the Eiffel tower. Reply to this

7 years ago, June 18th 2012 No: 4 Msg: #157774  
Paris is an amazing city that would take a great deal of time to get a good feel. If you have only been to Paris you only have a small glimpse of France.

I understand it making you angry because I get angry when someone spends two days in LA and thinks they have seen the US. LA is not a good representation of the US.

I am glad you shared your thoughts!

I have a friend who lives in Paris for a few months a year and Bali a few months a year. I hope to spend extended time there in the future. Not just in Paris but many other parts of your beautiful country.

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7 years ago, June 19th 2012 No: 5 Msg: #157824  
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in a day or 2 hours you just got a glimpse from a city and certainly not a country. When chatting with different people you even don't know much about the people living there, everybody is so different and has other thoughts.
I just like to read how people experienced the city i grew up in, when it sounds that they know it all by just visiting my city or country, i know i know better and I just read further.
( 've read it earlier today in a blog about Belgium. Flemish and Walloon people have problems with each other says the blogger that visited Belgium. So what do i need to think about that ?? I'm flemish and certainly have no problem with Wallons. but hey if they think they know it all, it could made me mad but i just read further and I know better ) Reply to this

7 years ago, June 19th 2012 No: 6 Msg: #157825  
Ist like saying that the french and english don't like each other in Canada.

You can't expect people to understand a country or a city in a small period of time. It takes a lifetime to really understand a place.

From the outside, yes it makes sense. A lot of time you ear of the tension between dutch and french speaker in Belgium. The fact you did not have a proper gouvernment for so long is interesting. Indeed, it doesn't mean you don't like each other, but most of the time people see a situation a complete other way from the outside.

We have to be honest. We are on a travel website and no one have the real description of what traveling is. For me it is to take a big, really big break and just explore a country from a to z, but I did visit some countries for a couple days in the past. That being said, I am not saying that i know any of the countries I visit by heart.

Some people just like to visit one place and that is their choice. Most people that come to canada are visiting Niagara falls, toronto, montreal and quebec city in 6 days on a tour. Good for them if it is making them happy.

We can't be mad at them. They are visiting one heck of a place. I like france. I went to a lot of place, but if I had two weeks vacation a year, I would go anywhere else in France that Paris.

On the other hand. Paris is probably over shadowing the rest of france. It is probably overshadowing most of Europe. It is one of those cities you know....

To make it a short story, Reply to this

7 years ago, June 23rd 2012 No: 7 Msg: #157960  
Yeah yeah... you're all very right of course! We're all different people and travel for different reasons... Tourism is an industry after all and I shouldn't complain! Reply to this

7 years ago, June 24th 2012 No: 8 Msg: #157987  
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7 years ago, June 27th 2012 No: 9 Msg: #158090  
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The fact belgium did not have a proper gouvernment for so long says it all, ... it is all political. but i think that is for an other forum... 😊

if i had the time i def would travel from a to z in a country and see as much as possible; I did it a couple of times from a to f or something. But a holiday with relaxing in one city is also fun. Reply to this

7 years ago, June 29th 2012 No: 10 Msg: #158154  
Not about Paris but on the topic of "Travelling without trying to get to know a place and the people living there", I found this phrase in a TravelBlog here:
"Sitting on the roof - with the clean desert wind in my face, passing countless camel carts, and reflecting on my time in the temple - I came to the conclusion that this day epitomised what travelling is all about - going beyond yourself and your personal security boundaries to experience different cultures, people and places - as strange or as peculiar though they may seem."
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7 years ago, June 30th 2012 No: 11 Msg: #158158  

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Frankie, thank you for sharing that quote from the Travel Camel.

Indeed, that is an outstanding an outstanding way to summarize what this exploration is all about.

When we took a long trip in 2007 & 2008 my husband kept saying.... wow, I've got time to think. I can think about anything I want. He would see something in our travels....and it stimulated a conversation.

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7 years ago, August 16th 2012 No: 12 Msg: #160019  
If I dont know about that place, Iam sure that I won't come there because it is very dangerous to do it. Nothing to make sure that we will come back after the journey. Reply to this

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