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15 years ago, July 15th 2008 No: 1 Msg: #41926  
So this has been a dream of mine for the last five years, and for some insane reason that even I cannot identify, I haven't yet indulged myself. But I'm going 'home' for 3 months! I was born in California, and apart from a few trips to NYC, I'm yet to go back. I'm taking out a loan to fund this trip, am quitting my job (if I remain sensible, I'll never get out there) and plan to leave in November...

Basically I'm looking to speak to people who have done a similar thing, and have dedicated some serious time travelling round the states. People to give me some advice and ideas, or to tell me I am planning on spending far too little money! Or way too much! Tips about train/coach travel, motels, hotels and couchsurfing... Whatever you got, I'll take it all.

So, my plan so far (and I know how much this needs to be revised and rejigged and rethought) is....

To fly to Cuba, spend some time there, go across to Mexico and then travel up the coast to Boulder Creek, CA where I was born, and travel the US from there, ending up in NYC. Alternatively, I could fly to New York, spend time in Maine and Conecticut, and then start my travels from there (maybe by going to Chicago and then doing Route 66 down to LA? Or travelling the coast???)

Ok, so my actual route is a bit fuzzy.
I want to travel for about 2 months in total, and then spend the last month in New York (although I could be convinced to reduce this to 2 weeks). I want to spend about a week in Cuba, and a week in Mexico. This would leave me a clear 6 weeks to do the States. Is that enough?? What route do I take to make the most of my time there?

Current and basic places I want to visit are:

Cuba - no doubt, I must go there
Mexico - Ideally I'd love to be there for Dia de los Muertos
California - Ben Lomond, Santa Clara, Boulder Creek, San Francisco, LA for Marylin Monroe's crypt
Grand Canyon
Vegas (but I would consider cutting this out of my trip - it's not do or die)
Roswell (again, just a tourist thing that I could easily get rid of)
Texas (in particular, Austin)
New Orleans (absolutely-must-have-to-go)
Mississippi & Alabama - the deep south, Faulkner territory
Washington
New York - I plan to spend a while here
Salem, MA for history geekiness
Maine
Prince Edward Island - for Anne of Green Gables geekdom
Chicago

I plan on spending about 3k in total, couchsurfing where I can (hopefully most of the time) and have read that train tickets (30 day national passes) are remarkably cheap? Is this true? What are the trains like? I totally cannot afford to fly and I don't drive so the only real options for me are bumming rides (not the best choice for a young girl on her own) or going by coach/train. Any thoughts?

Is there anywhere that you think I absolutely MUST go? That it would be criminal if I missed?
Also, what guide books would you reccomend? I hate Lonely Planet & Rough Guides as all they seem to do it list places to eat and sleep rather than things to do - I can't afford to buy a different book for every city I visit! Also, what routes would you reccomend I take? Is there a more fluid way of travelling?

Right... so, if anyone feels like giving me their 2 cents, I'd love to hear it!


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15 years ago, July 16th 2008 No: 2 Msg: #42082  
Not sure just how much help I can be here, but we completed a similar trip a couple of years ago. See our blogs from "There's always Vegas" onwards (starts in S.F., ends in D.C.). We drove the US coast to coast, so can't really advise on your travel arrangements, and stayed in motels/hotels, but we covered many of the states you're aiming to travel. The following is a very personal appreciation of places to visit.

The short version...
The south west is fantastic
The mid-west is huge, with less that appealed to us, though still not without its high points
The south is great for Blues bars
The south east is great for history

The long version...

The US South West is glorious country. The grand circle around the Grand Canyon (basically LV in the west, Zion and Bryce NP's to the north, and northern Arizona/southern Utah generally, Lake Powell and Monument Valley to the east, the South Rim, with Sedona in N.Arizona also worth a mention), are all stunning in a swelteringly hot, mostly orange coloured kind of way. Vegas is gloriously tacky and a lot of fun. Always happy to get there, and always happy to leave after 4 or so days. Not sure, however, how much of this you can do without a car. Maybe base yourself in Vegas, or another large town in N.Arizona/S.Utah and sign up for some excursions?

We found Roswell to be interesting. If it's on your route then it's worth a stop, but I'm not so sure it is worth a major detour if time is scarce. There is a museum, but the 'crash site' is private property and not accessible. If you do find yourself hanging around this area, then White Sands National Monument is also a good place to visit, in a blinded-by-white-gypsum-dunes-in-the-searing-summer-heat kind of way. Not sure how easy this is without a car though.

We found Texas to be huge, flat, and a state that we pretty much just drove through, so can't really advise you much on that one. Our route took us through the less touristy northern part of the state, and we went on to Oklahoma City and Dallas. Both are worth a visit if they are close to your route, though it sounds as though you will be further south. The OKC National Memorial marking the site of the bombing there in 1995 is an extremely well presented, poignant memorial, and we watched some great live blues in the old Brickworks, now converted to a leisure area. Dallas itself is just a big city, but the site of the Kennedy assassination is worth a wander around.

The southern Louisiana coast was fascinating in 2006, though this was more to do with the carnage caused by Hurricanes Katrina and Rita the previous year, so things might be a little more together now. We passed on New Orleans itself. Too soon after Katrina, and things still seemed a little dodgy there.

If you get a chance and the American Civil War is of any interest to you, Vicksburg, Mississippi is a good place to visit.

We thought that Memphis, Tennessee, was brilliant. We spent our nights in bars along Beale St, listening to some great Blues (we still listen to Delta Highway today). The town is also well worth a visit for the Lorraine Motel, where Martin Luther Kings drew his last breath, and Sun studios, where the Elvis phenomonem drew its first. Really liked that town.

We had family friends down in Florida, which is pretty much the only reason for going down there. This is where we hit the east coast, having started out from the west coast a couple of months previously. Cape Canaveral is well worth a stop if you're in the area, even if space stuff is not your bag. If you time it right, you might even get to watch a shuttle launch (we screwed it up and missed it by a day).

Our route then took us up through the Carolinas and Virginia, with memorable stops being Charleston (a very attractive colonial coastal town, and the place where the seccession started and the American Civil War got very serious), Kittyhawk (nice park and an interesting, albeit minimalist museum commemorating the Wright brothers), and Jamestown (site of the first English settlement in the New World).

We ended our trip in D.C., which is just a fabulous place to hang out in. So many museums and monuments, and something for everyone. I recommend giving yourself a good few days there.

From previous visits I have done, and depending on your interests, you might also want to consider more time visiting colonial Virginia. Along with Jamestown, Williamsburg and Yorktown are the big three historical sites there. And again, if the civil war is of any interest, then I definitely recommend Gettysburg in Pennsylvania. It's a nice enough rural scene anyway, and quite easy to get a picture of what happened over the 3 day battle as you tour the site. Standing at both Federal and Confederate lines and looking out over the landscape of Pickett's disastrous charge is quite fascinating.

Hope this is helpful. Reply to this

15 years ago, July 17th 2008 No: 3 Msg: #42161  
N Posts: 7
Hi there, so you are planning to tour North America? I recommend that you visit Yosemite and Lake Tahoe. They are both nice place. If you want to make a preview of these places check it here: www.mapjack.com/Yosemite and www.mapjack.com/LakeTahoe Reply to this

15 years ago, July 27th 2008 No: 4 Msg: #43207  
Hi,

I had a friend who traveled by train here in the US and found it very unreliable, especially going cross country. She experienced delays of up to 8 hours, as cargo trains take precedance on many of the lines. I think travel on the East Coast North and South is much more reliable. There is so much to see just on the West Coast - I'd rent a car (by the week is much cheaper), and then get a cheap flight from SF to NY, then do the East Coast. California is huge and there's so much to see.

Have a great time and good luck! Reply to this

15 years ago, July 29th 2008 No: 5 Msg: #43418  
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Hey Annette,

I think your trip sounds like fun! I think your best bet once you got to the States to hit all the places you want to go would be to start IN NY or SF and then just do a circuit (although, that would cut out Chicago, which I'm not sure you're willing to do, but it's very geographically seperated from everything else you want to do). But, if you have the time to spend a day or two travelling each way, Chicago is definitely a great place to visit.

Train travel is fairly nice, but not really as cheap as one would think. I've done some train travel and the seats are fairly comfortable (and usually have a foot rest you can fold up and get into a sort of laying down position). Depending on how many stops the train has it can be slow or fast. Amtrak can be kind of silly in their routes, as in, trains to certain cities don't always leave from the city you want to leave from and you have to drive to another city to catch that train... which sort of defeats the point of not driving. But, I am definitely not the expert on train travel, and I'm sure it's not as difficult as I remember it being. And, of course, once you get to the east coast it will become much much easier to get around.

I'm sure you know about the website couchsurfing.com, but in case you don't, it's an excellent source of finding couches to sleep on in almost every city. And (not to sound strange, but I like to put travellers up, as others have done for me) if you need a place to crash in the DC area my place is small, but available.

As far as expenses, the coasts are going to be much more expensive than the south. So, expect to spend a lot more on the sides then in the middle 😊 Public transportation is pretty cruddy in a lot of the US, but most larger cities at least have a bus system.

As for recommended...
If you are doing the route from SF to LA and can stop in Monterey that area is beautiful (geographically) and historic if you're into John Steinbeck (that's a big reason I liked it).
Austin is totally fun if you are into a college/bar/small concert venue type scene, bus San Antonio has it's perks as well in Texas
If you get into Georgia or South Carolina and aren't sick of the south, Savannah and Charleston both have the southern feel that people typically equate with the south (the rest is quite a bit different than most people expect, but that's definitely not a bad thing, as I've lived in the south for the past 6 years, and really liked it before moving to DC).

I've been to and/or lived in or near most of the places you are planning to see so if you have any other questions, give me a shout.

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