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Anxiety about travel with student loans
13 years ago, July 19th 2010 No: 1 Msg: #116041  
Hello everyone. I am currently on track to enter a fantastic anthropology program at a really cool and respected university in New York City. I will have to pay for it all (at least my first year) with student loans. I am quite honestly terrified about this for the implications it could have in limiting my ability to travel in the future.

I know I can get away in the summer and pinch off a grand or so of my loan and take a trip, and plan on doing the same thing on a somewhat larger scale when I finish the MA. But afterwards I will owe somewhere in the neighborhood of 70-80K. I already owe 30 from undergrad, but getting that close to 100 is really frightening.

Does anyone have experience with this?? I am considering not going so I can just work for a few months and travel, and using the income based repayment plan to keep my existing payments low. I am really torn between studying people and the world in an academic setting and studying people and the world WITH people and IN the world. I would love to be able to do both but I'm not quite sure how to go about it. Reply to this

13 years ago, July 20th 2010 No: 2 Msg: #116121  
Hi thirtyc and welcome to travelblog!

I completely understand the predicament you're in. As a current social sciences grad student in a really cool and respected university in New York City, wracking up student loans as we speak, I won't for a second dismiss the idea that student loans do and will influence your future travel plans - but whether they have to limit them is another matter entirely.

We're in the middle of planning our "epic honeymoon" and will do so carrying all the student loans from my M.A. It requires an additional component of traveling. Instead of just thinking about a daily budget on the road, we're also having to plan ahead to make sure we'll have enough money (in separate account to make life easier) to at least cover our minimum payments while on the road and are going into this with the knowledge that when we get back, our travels will be limited locally for a few years while we focus on paying them down.

A couple things to think about - 1) are you able to defer your matriculation for a year? This might allow you some time to either travel and/or pay down your existing loans without having to go through the process of reapplying (and worrying about re-admittance) later 2) it's a real rarity the anthro student that doesn't end up doing some field-work, and these travel costs can be expensed through grants and scholarships. Have you looked into these opportunities for "study based travel?"

Another thing I would offer is what most all travelers have to consider when planning for or during the trip - sticking to a budget. I know I was offered much more in loan "living expenses" than I actually needed - and many of my colleagues took the extra money and lived (and are living) a bit more of a luxurious life in Manhattan than I am for sure, but I'm also leaving with at least 20-30k+ less debt than they are - so yes, get your loans for tuition, but be conservative about taking out additional loans for living expenses. Beans, rice, and taking the subway to Harlem to get cheaper groceries - seriously. Look for free entertainment. Kills the social life a bit but hey, it's grad school. If you're expecting much of an NYC social life you might be barking up the wrong tree.

Also (and this is non-travel related but I think a good thing to ask yourself) is there a reason you're getting an masters in anthro rather than pursuing a doctorate? I ask because an anthro M.A isn't typically designed to be terminal - there's not much more you can do with a masters in this field than a bachelors (which is to say.... not a lot) unless you plan on applying for a PhD program with it. And masters programs tend not to be funded, whereas you can/do/should get stipends and fellowships to pay for your doctoral work. Just a thought.

It's something I stress over on a regular basis, but if you have clear goals and objectives, make a plan and stick to it - you can do both. All that said, don't be afraid of taking a year off to work and save/pay down debt because it's "not what those on the serious academic track do." Sometimes it's that time off that really lets you assess where you want to be, and gives you the conviction that your path is the right one, sacrifices be damned.

- Stephanie Reply to this

13 years ago, July 26th 2010 No: 3 Msg: #116529  
Thanks for your reply Stephanie!

It has taken several days for me to reply because I wanted to think over some of the points you raise. You are right about the planning, for sure. Thus far my life has not been conducive to travel (at all) but I have done it anyway, hustled and schemed to make it work where it otherwise would have been impossible. With loans it will just be more of the same.

I am considering a deferment, in fact I am going to apply for one formally as soon as I finish typing this. I think a year to travel a bit and think more about my ultimate goals would really help. I want to continue on through and get a PhD in anth or a related field, but I may not want to go straight through after my masters -- this is a major point of contention -- originally I had hoped to get the MA, perhaps teach at a community college or work in (the dreaded) corporate anthropology realm, same some money, and travel a fair amount before returning for the rest of the PhD. I have been assured by multiple people with and in the process of getting doctorates in anthropology that traveling, or at least back packing, is completely out of the question for those years.

An anthropology doctorate leads up to at least one if not several years of field work -- and this is wonderful and exciting!!! But it is also many years away and a much different mode of travel/experience.

What scares me most is that I will be buried in debt without any real job prospects until I get a PhD, at which point I will have to get in the game and work. Not to mention I will be much older and probably less willing to sleep on benches in barns in Mexico by then. Ultimately I'm afraid that this life/professional track will lead me away from rather than closer to my first love. I know it doesn't have to, but it is still kind of scary.

Where and what are you studying?? I will be at the New School. I plan on living on air and living in BK or Queens... I really do look forward to New York, because it is awesome and will probably FEEL like traveling for a long time. I plan to return to Atlanta for christmas breaks and summers, and my girl friend and our pup will still be here (and living expenses in ATL are nearly non existent compared to NY)

Well, I hope this reply isn't too scattered -- my thoughts are completely scattered at the moment. I have very cold feet and need to pack like tomorrow if I'm gonna do it! Yikes!

thanks again for the thoughts Stephanie, I'm glad to know I'm not the only one trying to bring together two seemingly exclusive lifestyles. Reply to this

13 years ago, July 30th 2010 No: 4 Msg: #116790  
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Why not do your Anthropology masters in Canada?

We (jennijen and I) are currently a few weeks into a 6 month fieldwork stint in Ecuador.

With the zero tuition, TA´s, RA´s and scholarships we should graduate with zero debt...actually we´ll likely make a tidy profit...shhhh! Reply to this

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