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Prejudice

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14 years ago, January 28th 2010 No: 1 Msg: #101508  

I am a British Asian Muslim - with a visible skin colour difference. However, I couldnt have been far off the mark. Before I travelled I thought I may get stared at...


Maybe you look Chinese, and that is why you fit in more. I as a white person was constantly stared at in China. People would even crane their necks around me to take a look at my face. When I smiled and said hello, that made them run away. Makes me wonder what type of reaction they were expecting. This was 10 years ago though. Maybe some things have changed.

I personally believe racism is a lot more subtle now.


I was actually reading a report by a phychologist about that a few days ago. The phychologist said that some rascism is unconsious. (S)he was describing it as it concerns how people respond to and react to what is happening to the earth quake victims in Haiti.


You will probably change a persons perception whilst doing so and that can only be a good thing right.


I generally feel I should interect with who I want, and not do it out of duty. If a person is interesting to me, I interact, no matter which nationality, gender, race.... Though, I do remember a time when I was surprised to find peolple in India, Africa.... that I could be interested in. Where I was brought up, there was rarely anybody who was not an Irish Catholic. The cliche that people are the same wherever you go is to some extent true, in my opinion. There are some people everywhere that I can be interested in.

...or maybe even abused...Why do I need to work myself over this??


Dont you worry about how prejudice against you would effect things like the job you get, promotions... ? Where gender prejudice is concerned, I am certainly concerned about these things. I didnt get personally abused while I was in Iran and some other places either, but I am still wary about what can happen or not happen to individuals because of the gender prejudice.
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14 years ago, January 28th 2010 No: 2 Msg: #101512  
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Mell, you have done your utmost best to pick apart my posting, and it feels as though I have to justify what I am trying to say. This particular posting was about a black american female travelling to China and wondering what kind of response she may get from locals - not at me trying to jutify some of my answer. I dont think this forum is the place to have our debate about some of the things you have mentioned.

You are right when you say it is upto yourself when and how you interact with people. I aint telling anyone to go above and beyond what they feel comfortable with. If I interacted with every human I came across, I wouldnt be able to move 2 inches lolll. Joking aside, sometimes its sometimes better to be the better person. If we can somehow educate the world a little, then the prejudices will be reduced..........we all have prejudices by the way! Prejudicsm and discrimination in the work place is a whole different ball game...........and that is something I do not condone.

PS: I have dark brown skin and some would say seeing a brown skinned asian is more of a novelty than seeing westerners with white skin. And yes......I too was stared at...........but we all have to take into our stride..........coz if your so busy worrying about this, your missing out on everything beautiful around you!

However, that is all I wish to say for the matter, and can only hope the traveller has a pleasant experience on their travels. I'm sure we can both agree on that.

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14 years ago, January 28th 2010 No: 3 Msg: #101514  

...it feels as though I have to justify what I am trying to say.


Well, no you dont have to reply at all if you dont want. The forums are for interactive discussions though, so anything you post here is up for discussion. As well as that, what I post is for everybody and anybody who wants to discuss, rather than just for the person I am quoting or answering.
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14 years ago, January 28th 2010 No: 4 Msg: #101516  

This particular posting was about a black american female travelling to China and wondering what kind of response she may get from locals - not at me trying to jutify some of my answer. I dont think this forum is the place to have our debate about some of the things you have mentioned.


Yes, you are right. I did go off topic. I will branch this thread to cover what goes beyond what this thread is supposed to cover.
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14 years ago, February 20th 2010 No: 5 Msg: #104317  

In china, this won’t happen for quite a while.


Quote by E Li

So, is there any move at all in China towards creating equality and fairness amongst the Chinese groups and increasing human rights standards?
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14 years ago, February 20th 2010 No: 6 Msg: #104342  

I guess not too many. All they notice is a person who looks different from others. racism is something that happens in places where people of different races constitute a threat of any kind to the dominant race. In china, this won’t happen for quite a while.


If we go by this definition, then there is rascism against the Tibetans, the Uyghur..., so then there is quite a lot of rascism in China. But, maybe not against black travellers.
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14 years ago, February 20th 2010 No: 7 Msg: #104364  

... but maybe less than 1 million (?) among them are tibetans and uyghurs (combined).


They are heavily discriminated against though. I am not so sure they are actual races, so some other word besides rascism probably applies here.

I guess when people don't like you, whatever you do is wrong.


You should take discussions about what is happening personally. If you yourself believe that the Tibetan and uyghur deserve the same rights as all humans should have, then rascism(or whichever word applies here) isnt something you are guilty of.

...they do to us.


Who is the us you are referring to, and in what ways do the Tibetans and Uyghurs discriminate against you. Are you saying they believe you are somehow inferior to themselves?

...that is in the blood of all human.


It absolutely is not. There are quite a lot of people making serious efforts to eliminate it. Not so easy to do I know. The tug of war between good and evil is never ending. I sincerely wish for good to gain ground all over the world.

...human rights, environment, corruption, or something else.


Yeah, those are always worth discussion. I could make a thread for them if you want to discuss China as regards these isssues. It is always worth hearing the opinions of those who live there, about such important world topics.

...save it.


Oh, OK! Subjects to be discussed with others, instead.

... they are the problems of humans,...


You are right, and that is why they are a big aspect of world politics and why so many discuss them.

...Lou Jing ...


Do people disagree with those who have a western and a Chinese parent? I havent read anything about Lou Jing. I will tomorrow.
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14 years ago, February 20th 2010 No: 8 Msg: #104367  

...She entered the Shanghai-based Dragon TV's Go Oriental Angel talent quest in August 2009, where she became one of the five finalists from Shanghai.

Dubbed the "Black Pearl", and "Chocolate Girl" on the show, her rise to fame culminated in an uproar in the Chinese blogosphere, with many comments on internet forums insulting Lou and her mother with scathing, racist remarks. Her attention in the media opened serious debates about racism in China and long-held racial prejudices by Chinese people. ...


Quote from Lou Jing
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14 years ago, February 20th 2010 No: 9 Msg: #104369  

Some European countries have awful problems with racism and it's not just confined to any particular country or continent. Spain and Italy are countries that come to mind and some eastern European countries as well. France have their issues too.

When I was in Malaysia everyone stared at me the whole time. 24/7. It was very uncomfortable. I didn't take it as racism though, it was more curiosity. I have red hair.

I found Australia and New Zealand very racist and very open about it too, particularly about their own indigenous population. I'm from Ireland and we have our problems here as well.

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Quote by Wanderly Wagon


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14 years ago, February 20th 2010 No: 10 Msg: #104370  

14 years ago, February 24th 2010 No: 11 Msg: #104791  

Mell, I finally got some time aside the work that pays me. Let's talk.


I already gave my opinions about this. Anyway, this thread is about prejudice in general and not just a discussion about China, so I am moving a few posts to a thread especially about Chinese politics, so you can discuss specifics about this there.
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