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15 years ago, January 21st 2009 No: 41 Msg: #60830  

Indian TV channels are flooded with scantily clad model-thin women with unnaturally large breasts and giraffe long legs, thrusting and gyrating like uncontrollable sexbots against some bloke twice their age, half their height, with a moustache like a small woodland creature and hairy knuckles who sways from side to side and wobbles his head in time to a song that he clearly isn’t singing and probably couldn’t care less about so long as he gets to see some boobs.


Consequently India is a country of men who are not really going to experience actual sexual intercourse until their wedding night at the age of thirty-ish but who are on a daily basis exposed to half-naked fantasies on TV and receive their sexual education from the highly accessible, celebrity obsessed, pornography filled information super highway: a medium that is, it is probably fair to say, less than natural in the manner in which it portrays women and sex. Is it any wonder then that foreign women are the focus of Indian men’s attentions in a way that we have not so far encountered in our travels?


Quote by Occasionally Bob in Blame it on the sexbots

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15 years ago, January 21st 2009 No: 42 Msg: #60872  
Generally, Few Indians have a real understanding of the Westerner's lifestyle. They watch either English Movies or Pornography through the Internet and think that western women are open in some ways!. Indians lack the public orderliness but they are strong in their personal lives with One man and One woman principle. Many Indian men would at least look at an Indian woman walking on the streets.

It is better to wear a dress that covers the entire body rather than a tight or revealing dress!It is better not to travel alone . Women traveller may travel in groups or may have to go with their boy friends. It is the case for the Indian women aswell because generally no Indian woman travel alone in India. Reply to this

15 years ago, January 21st 2009 No: 43 Msg: #60875  

.....One man and One woman principle


If it is a practice as well as a principle, then I presume the Indian men who pester foreign women are not the married ones. At least that would be the case according to popular opinion in India.

It is better to wear a dress that covers the entire body rather than a tight or revealing dress!


Yes, we will have to do this, until India comes up with a better solution to stop the problem.
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15 years ago, January 21st 2009 No: 44 Msg: #60877  
Mell, Women does not have enough freedom in India but if a foreign women get such a freedom in this country, then in such a situation these sort of things happen. Hope this would change. Reply to this

15 years ago, January 21st 2009 No: 45 Msg: #60882  

.....then in such a situation these sort of things happen.


Hopefully the Indian government is taking steps to prevent the various stages of rape(ranging from breast or bum groping to full blown rape) Western women are suffering on a way too frequent basis in India.

Whatever the ideas Indians have about our freedom, it does not extent to a free for all, where our bodies are concerned. I have never heard a Western woman say that she indiscriminately grants all Indian men the rights to touch her body.

And the sooner this problem stops the better for Indians as well as us. I am sure they dont like to constantly hear bad things from those who have visited their country.

Hopefully threads like this one will play a small part in demonstrating that the image many Indians have about Western women is false or at least grossely exaggerated.



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15 years ago, January 26th 2009 No: 46 Msg: #61376  
Hi all,

I feel low by reading this post....... as there is nothing much that I could do in my personal capacity to change this. I feel bad that people leave my country with bad experiences. I just hope sense prevails and things change.

As Mell mentioned about some government action in this regard, 'Incredible India' an initiative by Ministry of Tourism has come out with this national advertisement. Though it is in Hindi, i'm sure its not difficult to understand.

http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=2U27giZF6go

I apologize to people who had such bad experiences.

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15 years ago, January 26th 2009 No: 47 Msg: #61377  
Thank you Sarab 😊

It sure it nice to know that there are some people like you who care about what this is like for us. So many people in India just judge us as immoral and thus deserving of this treatment.

And it is very reassuring to see that there are advertisements to explain to men what it is like to be on the receiving end of harassment. There used to be an advertisement a bit like that one in the Netherlands to combat sexual harassment. I think it works, because Dutch men rarely harrass women like that. Maybe they did before action was taken to show them what it is like for women to have to tolerate it. Maybe other countries have such advertisements too. Maybe all countries should have them, because many women around the world now want their freedom and without having to pay the price of being harassed and intimidated for it.

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15 years ago, January 27th 2009 No: 48 Msg: #61514  
i went travelling with my husband and thank god i did.. i know exactly what you are talking about.. just stomp your foot down and show you have the upper hand and stare them back... thats what i did and they didnt stare for long.. i also wore sunglasses which discouraged thm a lot more....
you are in control and just push your way forward.. you have every much as right as they have...
good luck
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15 years ago, January 31st 2009 No: 49 Msg: #61858  

Whatever the ideas Indians have about our freedom, it does not extent to a free for all, where our bodies are concerned. I have never heard a Western woman say that she indiscriminately grants all Indian men the rights to touch her body.



Unfortunately though there are some women who don't mind being stared at or groped or at least if they don't like it they don't speak up. We say this from our recent experience in India - specifically in Goa. On the beach obviously there were a lot of Indian men with cameras either openly or sureptiously taking photos of western women in bikinis. A group of men approached a group of girls and asked if they could have their photos taken with them. The girls said yes and the next thing, the Indian men grouped around the girls started putting their arms around them, cuddling them and trying to kiss them. The girls in question didn't say anything to these men but when they went back and sat on their beach towels we could hear them complaining about how sleazy the men were for trying to grope and kiss them. There were also some women we noticed who went out of their way to get the attention of Indian men.

Why didn't these girls say something during the photo taking if they weren't comfortable with the way the men were behaving?

We were lying on the beach and an Indan guy came up to the two of us and asked if he could take our photo because he 'wanted photos of couples' (your guess is as good as ours) and we said no. The guy had the cheek to ask why and went to take the photo anyway. It was only through Neil shouting at him that he left.

The main thing that annoyed us about travelling in India is that we had to lie about being married. As Occasionally Bob says in their blog, it's just not worth the hassle to say you aren't married otherwise the woman of the couple is seen as 'fair game' for the men. This is not a nice situation to be in where even with a husband or boyfriend that a woman doesn't feel secure - look at what happened to Vik (Occasionally Bob's other half) she got groped.

just stomp your foot down and show you have the upper hand and stare them back... thats what i did and they didnt stare for long.. i also wore sunglasses which discouraged thm a lot more....



I went one further and stared back and said to them 'what the hell are you looking at?' the starers then got embarrassed and looked away. I'm way too independently minded and outspoken to hold back. We think this issue won't get any better until the general issue of women's right and sexism in India is addressed as a whole.

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15 years ago, January 31st 2009 No: 50 Msg: #61859  

......if they don't like it they don't speak up.


They would need somebody to speak up to about it. It would be useful if tourist police were also for the purpose of reporting these thing to. Saying no thank you would not work on all men.

There were also some women we noticed who went out of their way to get the attention of Indian men.


Really!? How weird! Why do you think this was?
But even if they did like this attention, I dont think they should have to shoulder the responsibility of how these men behave with women who give them no signal.

Are there any women reading this who enjoy the attention of Indian men when they travel in India? If so, would you explain why you like it. I myself enjoy the attention of well mannered and respectful men of any country. Sexual harassment on the otherhand is something I never enjoy.

We think this issue won't get any better until the general issue of women's right and sexism in India is addressed as a whole.


Yeah, I think that may be the case too. At least msg 46 shows they are at least making a start on it.


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15 years ago, January 31st 2009 No: 51 Msg: #61861  

But even if they did like this attention, I dont think they should have to shoulder the responsibility of how these men behave with women who give them no signal.



Yes we agree with you there Mel no woman should shoulder the responsibility of how the men behave with women the men should know better...but again comes back to women's rights in general and sexism. Sexual harrassment gets both of us very angry but unfortunately I (Donna!) have a very short fuse for this and end up smacking guys who grope (I did this in the UK several times), but double unfortunately Neil then gets dragged into it and feels the need to defend my honour!

We found it strange like you that some women liked the attention, we didn't get a chance to speak to them so the only thing we could thing of was that they found Indian men attractive...each to their own?! Reply to this

15 years ago, February 2nd 2009 No: 52 Msg: #61953  
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15 years ago, February 10th 2009 No: 53 Msg: #62766  
I have read some of the posts here where westerners are very concerned about the freedom of Indian women.
I dont want to blame guests to my country for these happenings but there is always another point of view.
Recently in rajastan the camel riders who take foriegners to their desert rides were tested positive for aids....and later on investigation it was found that they had a whale of time with a few european women travellers who visited india sometime last year......
A friend of mine managed to get a foriegn tourist to bed right from banglore pub.
Many europeans visit seedy places looking for sex....this is the fact in India and that is something no one can deny...

Goa which was a conservative place once upon a time has now turned into a prostitution den ....and a place where you can get all kinds of drugs ....and its one of the most visited places and a hot spot for tourists in India...

Now I do agree that such incidents like groping do happen....but they re few and in most cases rare...but then we have to admit that there are women who come into our country and have a good time....at the cost of locals...

Most indians respect women and the issues of womens rights in India are addressed at a slow pace in India by our politicians and public in general just as in europe the rights of immigrants and blacks are addressed with a lot of caution.
What I mean to say is the more black skinned you are the less you will be respected in france and germany..There are countries in mordern europe where people tend to jurdge you simply based on your skin colour than on the content of your character.....similarly we have this issue....which is fading away quickly.....
The more you go south the more educated people you will meet and more respect you will find...
It really has a lot to do with exposure of uneducated or semi educated masses of north where people think that white women are very free as we see them in porn having sex with parents and neighbours and even pizza boys....

Just like bollywood dosent represent ordinary indians ....hollywood or porn dosent represent ordinary europeans...and they dont know that....
One friend who saw the movie "indecent proposal" really thought its a true story.You can pay them ....you only need to know the right price he said.
There are many issues here that people are wary of.

I know of People who are afraid (in small towns )that they will be inundated with tourists ....thus having pubs all around which will have a bad influence on youngsters......we have our own serious issues.... and complaints about tourists visiting india and there are also many who come here as if they own us ...

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15 years ago, February 11th 2009 No: 54 Msg: #62812  
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India is a place where people are warm and friendly. Even strangers would be glad to help you, if needed. Some tips if you are traveling in India, always carry a pepper spray and a swiss knife or a pair of sharp scissors. Apart from molestation, you may have unpleasant experiences of people trying to mug you and steal your bags or money.

Always use the main roads to travel, specially if alone - and I would not bais this based on gender. Avoid traveling late at night unless you are positive about commuting back late at night - if you have a friend you'd drop you back or a cab guy who can be trusted.

Dont get drunk and under the influence of drugs while traveling, this would make you more susceptible to ruffians.

If possible, make friends with local people before you travel using a travel site or facebook, so they can guide you with local customs and norms. Sometimes, they may even be happy to show you around the place and introduce you to their other friends in different cities.

I have travelled a lot in India and most of it alone, so would always advice to keep to yourself and not to befriend strangers in trains and buses. Never leave your luggage back with them or take food offered by them. Also, never offer to look after their children or their luggage, might just land you in trouble. Its ok to be indifferent till you reach your destination.
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15 years ago, March 13th 2009 No: 58 Msg: #65899  
Already a lot has been analyzed here, my 2 cents are as below:

This happens from the iliterate population especially from the north part of india, and they think you don't have any support to protect yourself.

My view is:

1) Walking with a male companion is always safe in India, whether he is your husband, or a boyfriend or a local trusted guy.

2) Give a warning of calling police, and/or act like calling a police from your mobile phone.

3) Don't think shouting is indecent or rude, as long as it will keep them away and save you. Just shout as "Theif.. Theif" that's more than enough to get public attention.

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15 years ago, March 14th 2009 No: 59 Msg: #65911  
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Ah! at last some support for India and Indians...(thanx Rakesh Tanya AND chikoo ).I have something more to add... it's a cliche "when in Rome do as the Romans do"....why cant the Western people / women just understand that there are cultural differences which exist for at least the last 1200 years and they cant go all of a sudden with all kinds of information and education available. What a foreigner especially a woman needs are

1) Approach the right authorities for right information and ensure that while you visit India ....heed all advice you receive from authorities or good travel agents in India.

2)it isoften found that some foreigners (for want of a kick or for want of looking at the real India) just visit shady places and then when some one misbehaves...... crib incessantly. Isnt such gross behaviour evident in any country expecially if you visit shady places in those countries. If you want to see an example of this just take a look at Pahadganj in Delhi and you will know what I mean" . What I am trying to say is such behaviour is most likely to happen in India as it is likely to happen in America or Germany or wherever , but restricted to shady places. Else what can explain the 3000-4000 cases of forcible rapes that happen in the City of Newyork alone??? The corresponding figure for the whole of UK is 47000( imagine the population differences ) If one converts that to percentage of population and compares them with similar statistics in India .... one will understand what I say. And these figures dont even inlcude the cases of molestation and abuse to women in Newyork or London.

3)Arent we aware that some foreigners engage in all kinds of acts in Goa,(the first foreigners who came and made Goa their home were Hippies) so if the locals take foreigners for granted , I for one would not think it is thier fault alone. In a country like India there are safe beaches and there are unsafe beaches, If you do not want to be ogled at or misbehaved with,...please find out those safe havens and do visit them. You will find Indians to be the most courteous and well behaved.. ..

4) I AM not denying that there is a problem.. and I am sympathetic with those women who have left this country with a bad experience....and would love to provide here, right information or the right source of information, to anyone wanting to visit India. But this blog instead of raising problems and finding solutions has tried to brand all Indian men as sex starved.....which they are not..... I guess this blog is about how can we avoid hassle and not how we can brand Indian men obsessed with sex.......which they are not or atleast it applies to me men all over the world and not India alone....


5) here are some more tips that I found on the internet itself which could be used by any woman traveller travelling alone

a)Maintain contact with friends and family back home, especially if you are travelling solo. Whether by letter, fax, email or telephone, keep them posted on where you are and where you are heading next.

b)If touring solo for the day, leave a note in your room explaining where you are going. If you do not return as planned, this information could be used to help track you down.

c)Always carry the address or a business card from your hotel or bed and breakfast. If you get lost, approach another woman on the street and show her the address. She may be able to point you in the right direction.

d)Avoid sightseeing in isolated areas. If renting a car, consider carrying a mobile phone. Make sure you have an emergency phone number in case you experience a mechanical breakdown or find yourself in danger. Never pick up hitchhikers. And never get out of your car if another vehicle bumps into it.

e)Never accept food or drink from strangers. Understand that drugging is always a possibility.

f)Beware of petty criminals who target tourists. They may work individually or in teams, sometimes posing as good Samaritans or causing distractions to steal belongings.

g)No matter where you stay, always ask to see the room before accepting it. Does the door lock properly? Are there holes in the door or walls that could be used by peeping Toms?

h)No matter where you travel, it is best to dress modestly. Leave both valuable and authentic-looking costume jewellery at home. Blending in, rather than sticking out, will help you stay safe.

i)Be aware that, in countries where you look different from the local population, both men and women may openly stare at you and make no attempt to hide their curiosity.

j)Behave confidently, as if you know exactly where you are going and what you are doing.

k)Take your cue from the local women. As a rule, if they do not sit in cafés alone or wear sleeveless dresses, neither should you.

l)Never hitchhike or accept rides from strangers. Ask local hotels to recommend reputable taxis and, whenever possible, try to double up with someone you know when travelling by cab.

m)Crowded trains and buses can be hot spots for anti-social behaviour. Some men use this opportunity to touch or pinch the female passengers near them. If you are targeted, make a fuss. Point at the offender and chastise him in a loud voice

n)To avoid such advances, consider choosing reserved seating. Or take advantage of female-only sections of buses, trains and subways, where available.

0)While you should be cautious after dark, you should not feel restricted from going out at all at night. Simply take precautions. For example, arrange to have a taxi pick you up and bring you back. When deciding where to eat dinner, choose a restaurant that is close to where you are staying.

p)Since it is interesting to experience the sights and rhythms of a foreign town after dark, consider joining a sightseeing tour.

do you want more... there are numerous resources available on the net .... any sensible woman traveller to India or any other part of the world should adhere to and she should stay safe..


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15 years ago, March 14th 2009 No: 60 Msg: #65928  

Western people / women just understand that there are cultural differences which exist for at least the last 1200 years


I think cultural is way too flattering a way to describe sexual harassment and assault.
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