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i want to travel to europe for 3-4 months, need advice for money, where to stay. etc. sorry if there's already topics about this.
13 years ago, March 31st 2011 No: 1 Msg: #132456  
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So i've come to realize that i'm getting bored of my home town/country, and want to expand, get out and experience other cities and cultures, mainly historic. I tend to feel completely centered when surrounded with things that inspire me. so i've decided. (dont know when, but probably between may-august/sept.) to travel to Europe for 3-4 months. mainly, i'd like to see the U.K., Netherlands, France, Italy, and Greece. Of course Germany, Spain, etc. could be possible, i want to stay in a country for the most amount of time (i was thinking up to 2 weeks at most, even more if needed) and with the least amount of rushing and hurrying through them. id like to feel relaxed in a place, take my time to breathe and know where i am. even if i don't see EVERY monument or historical item, i'd still feel comfortable knowing i've completed a dream. i figured (maximum) 4 months, since i will be in school roughly sept.-april/may. and around $10,000 to get me by. (i may take a visa, etc. for emergencies). i would love to stay in a hotel at some points, i'd personally rather not backpack through europe so i can just leave my belongings (suitcase, laptop, any extra bags) and go party and enjoy myself. any tips, cautions, advice, or experiences would be greatly appreciated. im 20 now, not getting any younger.

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13 years ago, March 31st 2011 No: 2 Msg: #132510  
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If your going to be traveling and want cheap stays I'd suggest hostels there are alot in Europe and if you book everything in advance it will be even cheaper. I'd say backpacking is your best option as it's easier to carry than a suit case. Your going to want a eurail card I'd say global is the best gives you freedom to travel around europe in your own time. As to where to go that is something only you can decide personally rome would be somewhere at thetop of my list and the uk at the very bottom ( I live in the uk it's rubbish lol). Hope this helped if you want any more info just ask :p Reply to this

13 years ago, April 6th 2011 No: 3 Msg: #133102  
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Jonathan... ??????????
im not looking for women, and i don't live in vegas... no idea how that came across in my post. i live in Toronto. but i've always thought europe would be a great experience. more the art and history than partying (obviously i WILL want to go out and enjoy the nightlife).

Thanks scope; depending on where i would start i would still want to visit london at some point, see some castles, so on. even if the u.k is rubbish. lol.
i've heard you can get private hostel rooms. i would imagine the room would belong to you as long as you stay. thats all i want. i dont want to haul a suitcase or backpack around everywhere i go. i honestly havent looked deep into the trip, just at forums like this that suggest backpacking over anything., where to go, etc. but my trip is a long while away. a pipe dream at the moment, but i really do intend to follow through with it. Reply to this

13 years ago, April 7th 2011 No: 4 Msg: #133107  
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I'm the same mines still in plNning but I got y travelers cheques today so ots slowly getting tree lol londons alright but if it's castles your after I'd look in to visiting Scotland they have a few castles and it's a great place Reply to this

13 years ago, May 1st 2011 No: 5 Msg: #135198  
Unless you're willing to do the backpacking, thill, and figure out free sleeping and willing to do the dorm-style rooming at a hostile thing, you're not going to get anywhere only $10,000. Trust me on this. Europe has a high cost of living, especially the UK. (I lived in Radlett, just outside of London, for about six months.)

A very wise man once said that you can't travel happy, heavy, and cheap. Pick two. I'm going to assume you want to be happy, so you'll have to give up either packing heavy, in which case you'll need to backpack, or traveling cheaply, in which case you're going to need something closer to $70-80,000.

My husband and I are fans of Rick Steves, and with good reason. The man is the master of budget travel. Get a copy of his travel skills book, Europe through the Back Door. He includes some rather amusing tips for sleeping on a train.

Plan your itenerary carefully. Make a list of everything you might possibly want to do or see, then delete everything on that list that only got on there because "everyone" says you have to do it but holds no real interest to you. Then prioritize, cutting again and again until you have something manageable. Look at both open-jaw flying (flying into one airport and back home from another in whatever country you find yourself at the end of your trip) and your basic round-trip flights (starting and ending your trip in the same city). You might find that one is cheaper than the other.

Start in the west, where it's most expensive and closer to home, culturally, and move east and south as you go. In Eastern Europe, you get a bigger culture shock and spend less money. Consider taking night trains and sleeping on them.

Realistically, having a budget of $10,000 for your entire trip is stretching it for just one month. The cheapest flight for a round-trip deal I've managed to find is around $1500/person, and that's without checked luggage fees and purchasing food on the plane, which most airlines have gone to instead of one or two free checked bags and a free meal.

Consider buying a money belt to keep your passport, tickets, and the majority of your cash safe during the day. Violent crime rates aren't as high in Europe as in the US and Canada, but pickpocketing rates are much higher, especially in crowded tourist areas. There are also a LOT of scams to look out for. Here are some examples of common ones that I've read about on the Graffiti Wall on ricksteves.com:

1) The "Found" Ring. The scam artist "finds" a ring, holds it up to you, and asks if it's yours. When you tell him no, he offers to sell it to you.

2) The Gift of Leather Jackets. The scam artist asks you for help in finding something. In "gratitude," he gives you a "leather" jacket, then asks for some gas money, insisting that you must have more than what you give him.

3) Friendship Bracelets. The vendors are aggressive about braiding a friendship bracelet right on your wrist, and then insist you pay for it. This one hits both men and women, alone, in couples or in groups, in contrast to a similar scam that mostly targets couples where a rose vendor forces several roses into a young woman's hands and then insists that the man she is with pay for them.

4) Paintings. Many of the paintings you see on the streets, especially in tourist-heavy areas in Paris, are all the same. Sure, you see the artist dabbing on a bit of paint, but that's ALL he does.

Also make sure you know the money of each country, how much change you ought to be getting in restaurants, and that you agree on a price ahead of time with the taxi drivers. Also, if you take a taxi, check with several different drivers and services, and also check with your hotel to find out what the going rate SHOULD be. Reply to this

13 years ago, May 2nd 2011 No: 6 Msg: #135239  
Hey mate,

Sounds like a good trip! Ok so.. 3-4 months.. I am not to sure if this applies to Americans or not (I am from Australia) but a tourist visa is valid for 3 months within 6 months. If your the same maybe 3 months will be ok? Or I am sure you can sort something else out 😊

About the money.. Well for Diana and I $10,000 backpacking lasts us 3 months easy BUT we are not the partying people and use couchsurfing along the way which will take your money away from you pretty quick. Yeah hostles have private rooms but shop around because these can be as expensive as hotels at times. Also even the dorms normally have a place for you to lock your things up in when you go out also.

I think if you go for 3 months, 2 weeks in each country will give you a great amount of time to soak it up but linger for three days in each city other wise you'll be rushed over that long period. Reply to this

13 years ago, May 2nd 2011 No: 7 Msg: #135274  
Sorry forgot to say that the visa is for the whole of Europe and not each country.. So 3 months travelling then time to get out for another 3 months before you can return again on a tourist visa. Reply to this

13 years ago, May 4th 2011 No: 8 Msg: #135436  
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Have you thought about visiting Eastern Europe? This is a very fascinating part of Europe. Poland, Ukraine, Slovakia, Czech Republic... I could help you with planning the trip to Poland. I am from Krakow so I know a lot about this city. There are many historical places, great museums. There are salt mines near Krakow, Auschwitz is not far away... What do you think? Reply to this

13 years ago, May 7th 2011 No: 9 Msg: #135657  
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$70-80,000 the minimum necessary for a four month trip? o.O Reply to this

12 years ago, May 22nd 2011 No: 10 Msg: #136812  
N Posts: 12
lol thats far too high sorry but you wont need anywhere near that what are you going o do spend 20 grand a month seriously id ignore that last comment on here the most your going to need is about 8grand min 12grand max a eurail card is a good thing to have and thats going to cost around 1200 euros for the best card you can get hostels are the best to stop in you will meet likeminded people who are more than likely traveling the same as you so its a good chance to swap stories and experiance's. if your from a country in europe you just work as you go along much more fun and you realy get to see the country from a working class perspective which to me the working class or lower are what make a country and its values Reply to this

12 years ago, May 24th 2011 No: 11 Msg: #137025  
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thanks again man.
im definitely not paying attention to the above comment, makes no sense because clearly im not spending my time at big hotels and hundred dollar dinners to experience 'fine dining'. slim pickings is all i need. i've found that i'm working less than i expected, so even if i get a few thousand together i can still see a couple places and return in the future when i actually have the funds for those 3-4 months.

Thanks to everyone, i'll keep checking back to review other users' opinions Reply to this

12 years ago, May 26th 2011 No: 12 Msg: #137156  
I would suggest you to visit Italy and UK as I think UK is not that kind of rubbish as you guys are thinking. London is world famous for its State of the Art galleries, Historical Museums and stunning examples of world famous architecture also so why you are saying Rubbish. Reply to this

12 years ago, May 27th 2011 No: 13 Msg: #137273  
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i live here in the uk though and i hate it its crap thereas nothing to do and what there is to do iv done lol time for a change hence why i am goin traveling lol but yer if you get a few grand say 5000 us you should be good for 4 months just take a poncho with you or a tent so if you dont have the funds to stop in a hostel you stop in that oinstead just like camping just in another country
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12 years ago, May 31st 2011 No: 14 Msg: #137492  
Hi

Last year i spent my vacations in Ireland. I had a great time there.

As you said you want to explore different cultures and see historic places, so i believe Ireland would be the perfect place for you. It has rich cultural heritage, outstanding scenery and historical sites.

The best time to visit Ireland is from May to September.

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12 years ago, August 20th 2011 No: 15 Msg: #142110  
My husband and I were just tweaking our budget a bit, and got down to about 20,000 for a month in the UK/Ireland. For the naysayers here who say that I we must be spending that money on expensive hotels and $100/person dinners, here's a breakdown on our budget.

8,000 on the flight. That's approximately 4,000/person, and that's in the CHEAP seats without the fear of being bumped. If you're willing to risk getting bumped on a routinely overbooked flight (and yes, airlines routinely overbook), then you can get by perhaps around $600 for your ticket. IF you're lucky, that 4,000 will include the checked luggage fees and the food you have to buy on board, since most airlines don't do free food for their passengers, anymore.

$135/person for passports.

$3,000 for accommodations. This is for staying in a mixture of low-budget hotels and renting flats. If you're not a member of a hosteling association (for which you pay a fee in your home country and then pay yet another fee in the country you're visiting in addition to the nightly rate), then renting a flat is actually cheaper than hostels for long visits of a week or more. (Most hostels I checked were approximately 60 pounds/night, vs 30 pounds/night to rent a flat for two.)

$4,000 for food. Obviously, this will be cut down to about $2,000 for just one person. Again, this is mostly shopping for food at supermarkets and picnicking, but also some restaurants. Whatever the cost in Euros or Pounds, double it for American dollars to get an accurate estimate. Remember, the dollar is WEAK right now.

There's $15,000 right there. You'll also need to add in train fare, souvenirs, public transport, an emergency fund, and (gasp!) luggage essentials. Since you're wanting to travel heavy, obviously, since you said you didn't want to do the backpack thing, you'll have to toss either happy or cheap out the window.

If you want to take a laptop or any other electronics? It looks like you'll also need a plug converter, so there's $4. Then you can spend money on a travel clothesline, a universal plug or half a tennis ball, and detergent, or you can spend a little more money to have your clothes washed professionally at a laundromat, OR you can pack heavy enough that you won't have to wash your clothes at all.

For London? Get a London Pass combined with a 7 day travel card. There's $150, but it gets you into a LOT of sights for free over a six-day period and the travel card is good on train, bus, and tube.

You'll need the ferry between France and the UK and, if you want to hit Ireland, between the UK and Ireland. There's another $150.

Now, of course, our budget also includes bus fair to another state to get the best deal on the flight, a travel clothesline, a travel alarm, two Kindles, two money belts, two TSA travel locks, two travel back packs, travel space bag kits, and a good guide book for each region we're visiting, but they're worthwhile investments. Oh, and don't forget the fees for wi-fi or internet cafes if you want to get online! They do add up. And if you do use hostels, they require that you either rent a sleep-sack or bring your own, another cost that adds up if you choose to rent. And then there's soap and shampoo to keep clean, and many hostels use pay showers.

And, don't forget a phone card or an international cell phone, just in case, as well as taxi fares.

Still think I'm insane? Go ahead. Do the pricing on your own for everything you're wanting to do, and remember: museums come either free or 20 pounds a head, which is about 40 dollars. Reply to this

12 years ago, August 22nd 2011 No: 16 Msg: #142193  
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I think the majority of you live in Lala land $10000 for 4 months what are you eating full 3 course meals in restaurants nice 5 star hotels bloody insane I left England 4 months ago with ten euros in my pocket I sleep on the streets because it's free and my sleeping bag I warm enough. Second I wash in toilets eat very cheap food from super markets or kebabs. You all need to sit down and think what type of travler you are are you the type that can go without a shower for a week or two can you not eat regularly do you care about where you sleep of these things sent important then get a guitar learn to play and that will make you your money. And if any of you think I'm full of it then please add me on facebook kaine wright you'll see I'm traveling for FREE YES COMPLETLY FREE I HAVE FUN I GET DRUNK I SITE SEE I have mo back up plan no money in a bank if I get in trouble I have to sort it out myself. Most of you will think I'm crazy but I don't care I'm the traveller that will live off the land not shower eat anything but most of all I love the life I live Reply to this

12 years ago, August 22nd 2011 No: 17 Msg: #142212  
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You're awesome man, haha. making sense out of it rather than telling me what i need. i'm keeping everything in mind, i appreciate all your help Reply to this

12 years ago, August 22nd 2011 No: 18 Msg: #142213  
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I hear you brother. I'm definitely on your end of travel-style too. Not quite to your extreme, but I've slept on park benches from time to time, and the world failed to end. Reply to this

12 years ago, August 24th 2011 No: 19 Msg: #142315  
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I love it I hadn't eaten in a few days the other day so I put a sign up asking for a kebap within an hour I had a gathering of about 12 people some travlers some live in Vienna others were doing it the lazy way etc after which we went to the Donau and partied for 2 days straight I'm jacketed burnt and really need a good nights sleep but this life is the best I never know what's going to happen or where I'm going to be next all I know is I'm in Mcdonalds being bought my breakfast by some very beautiful young lady and for the first rime in a week I have cash in my pocket lol. And all you need to travel is good trainers skater ones are best as they provide adequate ankle support a good bag tent sleeping bag and very light weight clothes I have a pair of combats a pair of combats I cut to 3/4 length two t shirts 5 socks don't know where the sixth went lol and some other bits and bobs you will learn as you travel iv ha to throw stuff away so many times it's unreal and most of all if you hitch when you get stressed STOP put your tent up or find somewhere to relax and chill start again the next day if you want any more help feel free to ask me and if anyone wants to meet up let me know where you'll be and I'll have a go at getting to you Reply to this

12 years ago, September 3rd 2011 No: 20 Msg: #142730  
<snip> Portugal is for sure on option that you have to consider. 900 years of history, lost of culture, sun, an excellent gastronomy and affordable. It would be the perfect first step on this journey you're planing.
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