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London > Sydney (via Asia)- idiot questions...

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Looking for advice on our first big trip...
15 years ago, April 8th 2009 No: 1 Msg: #68747  
Hey everyone,

We're going to be heading off to Asia later this year, with the intention of (eventually) making our way down to Australia over the course of (hopefully) 6 months to a year. To this end, I have a couple of questions I'm sure someone will be able to answer:

1. According to plan, we'd be leaving around August and travelling through eastern europe over maybe a month or 2, and hopefully spending the bulk of our time around India, China and surrounding countries, then SE asia for a few months. I'm thinking that the weather isn't going to be ideal in all of these places at the times we'll be there (eg winter in the himalayas = not ideal) - how would you go about hitting the best weather (as much as possible, obviously) without having to zig zag all over the continent?

2. Are there opportunities to 'top up' cash reserves in this part of the world, for english speakers (neither of us speak any asian languages) the idea of working along the way is all well and good, but only if there are jobs to be had!

3. (Probably related to Q2) If we started with about £6k each, would it be reasonable to expect it to last as long as we'd like (up to a year) - obviously we're planning it to be a very self-sufficient and budget minded trip, but we're got nothing to gauge how expensive things could be.

4. Has anyone used sites like couchsurfing.com ? How did you find the experience and would you recommend it? It seems like a good way of cutting costs and experiencing local culture at the same time.

Any thoughts would be most welcome!

Thanks
Ben

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15 years ago, April 8th 2009 No: 2 Msg: #68752  
Hello Ben 😊

Has anyone used sites like couchsurfing.com ? How did you find the experience and would you recommend it?


Couchsurfing experiences

Mel
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15 years ago, April 8th 2009 No: 3 Msg: #68763  

3. (Probably related to Q2) If we started with about £6k each, would it be reasonable to expect it to last as long as we'd like (up to a year) - obviously we're planning it to be a very self-sufficient and budget minded trip, but we're got nothing to gauge how expensive things could be.


If this does not include plane tickets, it leaves you with an average of 33£ per day each, if I have calculated correctly. That should stretch over 6 months. Spend more time in the less expensive countries such as India, and the SE Asian ones and less in the more expensive ones to make sure.

2. Are there opportunities to 'top up' cash reserves in this part of the world, for english speakers (neither of us speak any asian languages) the idea of working along the way is all well and good, but only if there are jobs to be had!


A lot of English speakers teach English in places like Thailand and China. I will dig up a thread about it and post it here.
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15 years ago, April 9th 2009 No: 4 Msg: #68848  
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15 years ago, April 9th 2009 No: 5 Msg: #68849  
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15 years ago, April 9th 2009 No: 6 Msg: #68907  
to be honest 6k doesn't sound like very much for 6 months, much less a year. we're in SE asia at the moment and on a budget of 15 pound a day (if you spread that 6k over a year) you're just getting a basic dorm room and a few cheap street meals. you need to take into account flights, inter-city and intra-city transport (planes, buses, trains, ferries, taxis, tuk-tuks, cyclos...the list goes on), plus entrance fees to sightseeing places (you do want to see things on your adventure right?), visas (vietnam, china, thailand, myanmar, cambodia all require tourist visas and you will require an australian visa if you want to work there), comprehensive travel insurance (australia won't allow you to have a working visa if you aren't covered the entire time you want your visa)

it sounds like you're doing a lot of extensive overland travel and the costs for trains/buses etc to go from country to country is going to be the biggest cost. do some research for each individual leg and see where that leaves you Reply to this

15 years ago, April 9th 2009 No: 7 Msg: #68908  
p.s. they're not idiot questions at all.....you'll have no idea til you start the trip yourselves and gauge what sort of experience youre looking for on a day to day basis Reply to this

15 years ago, April 13th 2009 No: 8 Msg: #69348  
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Keep in mind money for emergencies. You definitely need to have insurance on your trip.

Your flight home at the end will be very expensive. You can search online for deals, but they will always be for round-trip travel. One-way travel can often be as expensive as round-trip...so you'll need at least £400+ for your flight home.

Be sure to find out about working information in the countries you want to visit. Working for money while on a tourist visa can cause you to be arrested and deported. Australia offers a working holiday visa which allows a small amount of employment while on your trip...but you must apply for one (it's not the same as the electronic tourist visa). See the website for more info:
http://www.immi.gov.au/visitors/working-holiday/417/

As herewego said, £33 isn't bad for food and simple accommodations, but when you factor in transport (cheap between small towns, but expensive between large cities or across borders) and visas...it may be very risky.

Visas are another issue. Traveling overland, you MUST pass through Russia, Azerbaijan, or Iran. All three of these countries require a detailed itinerary and a letter of invitation. Russia is notorious for having a difficult visa to obtain, and is only valid for the dates you have hotel reservations for or the dates specified by a tour agency's letter of invitation. You can't book a hostel for two nights and get a 30-day visa, some people who try this may only get a visa valid for as little as 3-4 days! Plus, Russia is VERY strict when it comes to leaving by the date specified by your visa. Even arriving at the border minutes after midnight (when your visa is expired), you will be detained and forced to get a new exit visa (which can take 30 days). Azerbaijan requires a similar letter of invitation and the only way onwards is across the Caspian Sea, which you need to find a space on a cargo ship to cross and bring all your food, water, & toiletries for several days' journey (plus a visa for Kazakhstan or Turkmenistan, which also need a LoI). Iran isn't too bad for anyone except US citizens, but I think an Iranian visa must be acquired in your home country.

If you are truly interested in Asia, you may want to consider starting your journey in China, India, or Japan. Flying to Beijing or Mumbi may cost less than all the transport and visas needed to arrive there overland, minus the hassle of applying for those visas.

Or, since you only mentioned seeing E.Europe and E.Asia, you may want to consider spending time in E.Europe, then head to Moscow and board the Trans-Siberian RR which takes you to Beijing (but you'll need to get a Russian, Mongolian, & Chinese visa beforehand), but is still overland, memorable, and quite scenic. However, between the ticket and visas, it probably costs a little more than a one-way flight would (around £300). Unlike European trains, though, you need to buy tickets in advance for summer, they are like plane tickets (only valid for a particular train on a particular date and non-refundable if you miss it), and can't be bought directly online (you have to buy through a travel agency...especially to get a letter of invitation).

While you probably want to go slow and see/do things as you have the chance (which is perfectly ok), but you still need to do LOTS of research. Make sure you know how/where to get the appropriate visas, how the transport systems work in each country, which cities/regions are safe or not, common scams, how to deal with authorities, what not to say, etc. You should also find a small/compact basic phrasebook for the countries you want to visit, you WILL have to deal with authorities, bus/taxi drivers, ticket vendors, and others who don't speak English

Some good, basic info on individual countries can be found on the FCO's website:
http://www.fco.gov.uk/en/travelling-and-living-overseas/travel-advice-by-country/
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