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Budget Advice- Asia - Australia - USA

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Advice needed on a budget for 2 travellers for 7 months mostly in Asia, also visiting Australia and USA
14 years ago, September 8th 2009 No: 1 Msg: #85682  
Hi,

Me and my boyfriend are planning to travel mostly Asia, leaving around November 2010 and would like some budget advice. We would like to do the following:


India 5-6 weeks

Laos 2 weeks

Vietnam 3 weeks

Cambodia 2weeks

Thailand 4 weeks

Malaysia 2-3 weeks

Singapore 5 days

China (east) 2 weeks

Japan 2 weeks

Australia (Sydney) 1 week

USA (drive from LA to San Francisco then fly to New York) 1 month

We have a rough idea of flight costs from the travel agent, but would like advice on a realistic budget for daily food and accommodation, as well as for trips and tours. We will stay in budget accommodation and try to eat cheaply most of the time, and we don’t really drink a lot.

Also we will be travelling by train/bus a lot, especially in South East Asia so any advice on those costs would also be much appreciated.

We are a bit worried about the cost of this trip especially the Japan and USA parts!

Also if anyone has any info on renting a car from LA to drop off in San Francisco that would be great (bearing in mind at time of travel we will be aged 22 and 23).

Thanks!

Debbie and Angelo
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14 years ago, September 14th 2009 No: 2 Msg: #86207  
Hello Debbie and Angelo 😊

For SE Asia and India, I think a backpacker budget of 30 Euros per day between you would be enough.

For Japan and Australia I would have 50 to 100 between you per day.

Also I would have 100 per month extra between you to cover visas, replacements.....

These costs do not include flight costs. And if you have more money to spend than the above for your daily budget that is always better, but not necessary.

About the driving part in the US: I am not sure how much driving actually costs, because I never do it. Hopefully somebody else will comment.

In Japan, apparently a train pass is available and is the most economical way to go. Hopefully somebody will post more details about that here.

In SE Asia and India train and bus transport is very inexpensive.

I havent been in China for 10 years, but my guess is that around 40 toi 50 Euros per day between you could cover it. As I remember trains, boats and busses were not too expensive there.

Mel Reply to this

14 years ago, September 18th 2009 No: 3 Msg: #86674  
B Posts: 57
Since you're as budget concious as you are, I have to ask why you are spending a month in the US with that itinerary. Even if you spend 4 days in LA, 2 days driving to SF, 5 days in SF, and a whole week in NY, that's only 2 1/2 weeks at a comfortable pace. You could use the rest of that month in Asia and cut your costs a lot. I'd personally tack on more time in Laos and Thailand. And I've never been to China but I think I'd want to be there more than two weeks if I did go.

As far as the California driving thing, it's going to be tough. Most car rental agencies in the US won't rent to anyone under 25. Greyhound is cheaper anyway, but I'm guessing they would probably take you up the boring freeway, and not up the much better Pacific Coast Highway. If you can find a car, you should do it. Reply to this

14 years ago, September 25th 2009 No: 4 Msg: #87268  
I spent 20 years in Los Angeles before moving to New York and without a car, you are stranded. The public transportation system in LA is quite bad and taking cabs everywhere is expensive. I would suggest staying in a central part of town (and don't let the travel agent convince you that east LA is the central part of town). Pick either the beach or the city and stay within these parameters: Beach: Santa Monica, West Los Angeles or Venice; City: West Hollywood, Los Feliz or (and this is already stretching it) Echo Park. Otherwise, make friends with a cabbie.

As for New York, I don't agree with the comment above mine. I have lived in New York for some time now and STILL don't feel like I have seen it all or had enough. Spend less than 2 weeks in New York and you'll regret it, I promise. Its a great place (all US animosity aside).

I've traveled through Europe but not Asia, so my advice stops here.

Hope that helped,
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14 years ago, September 25th 2009 No: 5 Msg: #87317  
B Posts: 57
Of course you can spend several weeks in any huge city and not see it all. But since you're traveling at a relatively quick pace (only 1 week in Australia, 2 weeks Japan, 2 weeks China), I don't think you'd regret spending only a week in NY.

And two weeks in NY will cost the same as 2 months in SE Asia. Reply to this

14 years ago, September 25th 2009 No: 6 Msg: #87323  
True that SE Asia is much much cheaper than NY. I guess I love NY so much I want people to stay longer and see more of it. But you're right, 2 weeks in NY, relatively speaking, is not necessary.

Debbie and Angelo:

Have a great trip! I write for a travel magazine and will be developing our Asia section in the next couple of months. I'll keep you guys posted.

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14 years ago, September 26th 2009 No: 7 Msg: #87380  
D Posts: 4
as far as india is concerned, i agree with mell . 30 pounds / Rs 2500 per day is sufficient.
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14 years ago, September 26th 2009 No: 8 Msg: #87381  
D Posts: 4
from north end of india (i.e kashmir) to south end of india(i.e., kanyakumari) ,almost 3000km costs you Rs1000
i.e., 13 pounds in sleeper class of indian railway.if you want more information please feel free to phone me at
. (p.s. i am not a travel agent nor i am going to travel with you. i can give you a good advice.
thank you
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14 years ago, September 26th 2009 No: 9 Msg: #87425  
I haven't travelled much through Asia so I can't comment on that but only a week in Australia and only Sydney?

That's gonna break the budget big time and you won't even get to see a lot (Harbor Bridge and Opera House only takes a day and I'm sorry, but it doesn't have that much more to offer - Bondi Beach but it's ridiculously overcrowded).

If you're priority isn't Australia - you won't see any wildlife, any outback, any nature, any culture or any beaches or landscapes; I would suggest something else. Are you travelling on an RTW ticket? If so and you have to go through Oceania - why don't you connect to Fiji or something like that instead? Or NZ? If you don't have to go through Australia I think your time would be better spent somewhere else - and leaving Sydney for a more detailled trip through Australia. Remember - Australia isn't just a country; it's also a continent and it has all the diversity that any continent has! Reply to this

14 years ago, September 27th 2009 No: 10 Msg: #87452  
Thanks for all the replies!

For any of you wondering why are only doing a week in Australia......

We didnt originally want to go to Australia this time but our travel agent said we have to stop over in Ausralia on our RTW ticket anyway and Angelo has family in Sydney, so we thought we might as well take the opportunity to see them. We will be staying with them so should save some money there with accomodation.

Anyway thank you everyone for all your advice!

Debbie and Angelo x Reply to this

14 years ago, September 27th 2009 No: 11 Msg: #87454  
I think a week in Sydney sounds great. I would like that, if I had a RTW ticket. In fact, I am thinking about getting a ticket to Sydney, which stops over in Asia for a few days. All in al,l I will only have around 2 weeks for the trip, but it should be good anyway. Reply to this

14 years ago, September 27th 2009 No: 12 Msg: #87456  
Debbie, I apologise - have heard of many people that think there gonna spend a week in Sydney and see kangaroos hopping around on the side of the road and koalas in the local parks! However, the decision to spend the week in Sydney to visit family is fair enough (plus it will definitely be worthwhile to stay with them) especially since it's a compulsory stopover on your ticket!
Again, I apologise! Reply to this

14 years ago, September 27th 2009 No: 13 Msg: #87458  

Debbie, I apologise - have heard of many people that think there gonna spend a week in Sydney and see kangaroos hopping around on the side of the road and koalas in the local parks!


I am hoping to see the opera house that features in so many photos, hang out at Bondi beach and the Rocks. I dont have any expectations that I will see kangaroos or koalas bounding along the city streets halting traffic or whatever they would do, if they were in the city.

...have heard of many people that think there gonna spend a week in Sydney and see kangaroos hopping around on the side of the road and koalas in the local parks!


Are you sure they are not joking? I will probably ask people in the shopping centres where the Kangaroos and Koalas are too. :D


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14 years ago, September 27th 2009 No: 14 Msg: #87463  
No, they weren't joking - I swear I've met people who thought us aussies all had pet kangaroos. Sydney is like a lot of other places; it's just a city; I would say it's not a true reflection of Australia and only offers 1% of everything Australia has to offer.

I suggest Debbie if you guys can - either borrow the family's car or see if you can hire one and go along the NSW border a little bit - for example the Three Sisters is quite nice (its in the Blue Mountains) and it's not that far from the CBD: at least it'll give you something to do and show you a bit of nature and the opportunity to hear a little bit about the Aboriginal Culture. Reply to this

14 years ago, October 15th 2009 No: 15 Msg: #89559  
N Posts: 1
hi there! try looking for serviced apartments around the area. hope that helps
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14 years ago, October 17th 2009 No: 16 Msg: #89727  
if you drive outside of major cities in Australia, you will definitely see kangaroos hopping on the side of the road and koalas crawling around too. They e not hugely common, but you do occasionally see them. But kangaroos are dangerous, don run into them, as they will continue to kick you through the windshield post-impact!!

In terms of LA-SF road trip, its a great idea and we wanted to do it as well, but the costs just added up to too much once we did the maths. We were also under 25, so they charged us a premium, plus because you are dropping it off at a different location it will cost a lot extra too. If you have the time, the best thing is to book a bus ticket that is good for the whole of the west coast of Cali and hop-on and hop-off at places you want to stop off at.

Staying at hostels, eating out once a day and having meals at the hostel the other 2, drinking once or twice a week, sightseeing every day but no more than 1 museum or major attraction a day and using the public transport not cabs --- in the US our budget was about USD$70 pp per day

Staying at 2-star budget hotels, eating out 3 meals a day, drinking 3 or 4 times a week, sightseeing every day, using tuk-tuks/taxis/rickshaws/whatever public transport was going -- in SE Asia our budget was about USD$40pp per day.

If you e using the bus in Thailand, I would highly recommend a company called Nakhon Chai Air-they are the best in Thailand and are a little more expensive than the others, but one of the locals recommended it to us as its the most comfortable. Plus, with western exchange rates the difference is next to nothing. A trip from Chiang Mai to Phitsanulok (near Sukhothai) took about 6 hours and cost around USD$20. A trip from Phitsanulok to Khon Kaen was about the same, and Khon Kaen to Bangkok was 8 hours and around USD$25. Plus, they feed you, the seats recline, theres air-conditioning and the buses are not crowded.

In Vietnam, trains are the best way to go-I would recommend trying to get a sleeper cabin though for overnight journeys. We had some bad experiences but mainly because we got food poisoning at the beginning of a 12 hour trip and needless to say, trying to throw up in a moving pit-toilet is not fun (yes, the toilets are holes in the floor of the train). You can get a lot of package deals for trains/accommodation/tours once you are in Hanoi or Saigon, but if you want to do it yourselves, a train trip between Hanoi and Hue is about USD$12. Flying is also quite cheap if you don have time-Jetstar does budget domestic flights between Vietnamese cities, as does Air Asia. Buses I hear are not reliable and not very comfortable.

In Cambodia, there are no trains (well there is one between PP and Battambang but it goes at 20km/h) so buses are the way to go, you can get a bus ticket from Saigon and book the ticket for Saigon-PP and PP-Siem Reap (I presume you e going to Thailand via Siem Reap) for about USD$30. When we were there, the Cambodian Riel was virtually being phased out so carry lots of $1 US bills on you-they e good for tipping. Theres no public transport in Cambodia (or at least, for foreigners) but a cyclo or tuk-tuk will cost about US$4 from one end of town to the other. In SR, I hired one for the day for $12 and he took me from my hotel in SR to the Angkor Wat temples, drove me around all the temple, and took me home at the end of the day. Of course I tipped him well cos this was amazing value-and they really appreciate it-$1 will go a lot further in his country than mine.

Malaysia is slightly more expensive than the other countries around, mainly because hostels aren that big in this country so you e better off staying at 2-star budget hotels, plus standard of living is generally more expensive e.g food, transport, shopping etc. KL has a pretty good public transport rail network though. Buses are the best way to travel within Malaysia, but if you don have time, KL is Air Asias home so youll find lots of cheap deals exiting KL to other parts of the country.

If you want a better idea of costs for hostels/hotels, just look up hostelbookers or hostelworld or one of those other hostel booking sites and theyll give you a rough idea for costs/night. Hope that was helpful! Reply to this

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