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Backpacking starting in Bangkok - Norththailand - Laos and Cambodia

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HELP! I am totally overwhelmed by the vastity of things to do .. could U help me find a great route??
12 years ago, September 17th 2011 No: 1 Msg: #143425  
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Hello everybody,
my friend and I are going to Thailand in November and we are staying for nearly 3 weeks. We are backpacking so we are looking for a route that shows us the authentical Thailand .. great nature .. history treasures .. Elephant rides .. boatcruises .. perfect lonely paradise beaches .. Can you help us?

We start in Bangkok and then?? what is best to do .. what can you recommend .. I hate the touristtrail .. so we like to get dirty .. we like to see and do things not everybody does ..

Ideas??

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12 years ago, September 18th 2011 No: 2 Msg: #143462  
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Start in Bangkok for a few days. Spend the last couple days again in Bangkok for your flight home unless you purchased one way flights in and out of different cities. (Usually round trip tickets are cheaper than 2 one way flights.) From Thailand it is easy to get to other countries.

While you are in Bangkok the first time you could purchase your transportation for other cities if you want. Unfortunately the things you want to do also interest other tourists too! Over 15 million tourists visited just Thailand alone and many of them also "like to get dirty .. to see and do things not everybody else does .."

Not really a lot of time to see 3 different countries, with different currency and visa requirements. To save time you may have to fly to some places - will that fit a backpacker budget?

Simplest, and sometimes cheapest, way to see more for your money is to take a tour! In Thailand you can get tours through local travel agencies. No charge to visit one and see what they offer. There are many travel agencies. But if you want to do your own thing you have to do some homework ahead of time and see what interests you.

Nature, history and "authentic" Thailand visit northern Thailand. Chiang Mai is popular and from there you can get tours and treks through local travel agencies too. There are visits to elephant camps and rural villages. But Nong Khai is closer to Laos. Better beaches on the other end of Thailand. In between you have beaches at Pattaya/Jomtien, Hua Hin, Koh Samed and Koh Chang.

Wait until you get to Thailand to change any of your currency to Thai baht for the best rate. Bank money changers available at the airport 24 hours a day. Plan a budget and see how much you can spend on hotels. Laos and Cambodia also use US dollars as a de facto currency but you will still need their currency too. (Don't leave Laos and Cambodia with their money because no one wants it elsewhere.)

Not as many hostels in this part of Asia but there are many guest houses and smaller hotels. For Bangkok if you have a hotel near the Skytrain you can get around the city pretty easy, even from the airport.


It looks like you will be seeing lots of bus stations, airports and train stations if you intend to visit 3 countries in 3 weeks and "do your own thing" too!

Good luck.





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12 years ago, September 18th 2011 No: 3 Msg: #143463  
Papilletta

Purely due to experience, seasoned travellers know the limitations of travel - how far they can travel / sightsee for any length of time. , what to see / do, how authentic, etc.

My hunch from your question is that this is your first time to SE Asia.

My suggestion is as follows:

1/. spend about a week in a locality. 1st full day after arrival should be to 'suss' out the city / town and learn from your experiences during that day / night about how you might best enjoy the remainder of the week (or so),

2/. work out the most efficient means to travel between regions. As you have less than 3 weeks, travelling by road will consume much time. In Thailand, please DO NOT entertain night bus travel - it is far too dangerous (both crashes and robbery are more frequent than most admit). For mine, I'd fly north (Chiang Mai) from Bangkok, then south (see below) for a week or so, and return back to Bangkok,

3/. accept that unless you know where to go, how to actually get there, and can speak the local language, it is almost impossible for you to get off the 'tourist trail'. That said, even on the 'tourist trail' it is not hard to sightsee, etc., in places where many tourists don't go.

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Perhaps you might look at Travelfish . This site has more backpacking advice than any other in SE Asia.

The list of cities/towns is extensive, as is the list of accommodation.

I'll mention ideas on the basis that you'll do research at travelfish...

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As indicated, spend a couple of nights in Bangkok, go away (I suggest north, then south) and a couple of nights back in Bangkopk before going home.

NORTH


Chiang Mai is both an interesting city in its own right, and a gateway for day tours, and other nearby centres.

A great day tour is Tree Top Asia

When in Chiang Mai, try a Hang Lay (Burmese curry). You won't experience it anywhere else.

If elephant riding is your desire, perhaps the best I can suggest is to head to Pai. There you'll see a quite different Thailand. There are several elephant riding operators. But for you, maybe Thoms would be best Thoms & This one .

There are so many options to ride an elephant in/around Chiang Mai, but Pai is (& swimming with the elephant) is so much better. Travelling to Pai takes about 3 hours, so try and leave early and ride that afternoon before a return the next day.

You say you want to get away from the tourists. For that, I'd suggest some time in Chiang Dao. This is a VERY SPECIAL place. Travelfish While there is elephant riding there, it aint like Pai.

I'd suggest not doing a 'hilltribe' trek anywhere in northern Thailand as it is so, so commercial. Imagine if you were a hilltribe villager, and maybe a 100 westerners pass your village each and every day. Would you want to say 'hello' or 'welcome'? I suggest not.

The trekking at Chaing Dao IS worthwhile.


SOUTH

From Chaing Mai, I'd head to either Ao Nang (via Krabi) for a western beaches experience, or the other side (either Nakhon Si Thammarat or Surat Thani ).

Ao Nang allows you to see some magnificent beaches, and visit some great islands. The snorkelling/ scuba diving is also enjoyable. But, you WILL be with hordes of westerners. That said, it can still be a great experience.

The beaches on the eastern side are much less touristy. But, transport is also virtually non-existent. The beaches just don't see too many westerners, and English is a bit shaky. At either Nakhon or Surat Thani, if you ask around you can hire either a motor bike or car. You really do need this to get around on the eastern side of the Southern Peninsular.

From Surat Thani, you can venture to Koh Samui, but this is a long boat ride. I suppose if Koh Samui is within your budget, it may be best to go straight there. But, it is both touristy and expensive.

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Lets assume you've got 18 days. Then, 2 at BKK, then 8 at Chiang Mai (assuming you 'do' both Pai & Chiang Dao). Then 5 at the SOUTH (allocate 1 whole day for travel from Chaing Mai), before returning to Bangkok for 2 days.

When flying from Chiang Mai to the south, be careful which airport the flight arrives / departs. There are 2 airports. AirAsia.com uses the international airport, and appears one of the better/cheaper carriers.

Hope this helps.

Cheers


[Edited: 2011 Sep 19 00:37 - Rat on the Road:23681 - Added codes for links]
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