As our Los Angeles Geographical Society tour bus approached the border of Scotland and England, the coach driver asked if we wanted to stop at Gretna Green. (Wink, wink!) Gretna Green is famous as the place where couples eloped to marry in the 18th and 19th centuries and avoid parental permission. Wow, was the driver surprised when several of us made a counter proposal! As we are crossing the border into England, let's see Hadrian's Wall instead, we said! (There was not time for both.) I don't think the driver had ever had a group ask to see Hadrian's Wall before. Even Valene demurred and said that the ruins of Hadrian's Wall were nothing like the Great Wall of China. Lee Dodson and I were the most in favor of a stop, and soon others went
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