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30th July 2010

There's a coincidence - that they both ended up in the lunatic asylum. I guess your great uncle probably ended up in Valkenberg - there can't have been that many lunatic asylums in Cape Town. The conditions in the asylum must have been fairly horrific back then. Peter died within a year of being admitted to the asylum. We'd always wondered why he died relatively young and when we found out he'd been put in an institution that really answered our question. We came to the conclusion that he died because he was in the asylum. I'm afraid you might well find the same. The court order we found committing him to the asylum was very brief. It didn't give any reason. It was just done on the orders of the magistrate. I'm sure that back then there could have been all sorts of reasons for putting someone in such an institution. I think we accepted that we'd never know who or why. Because he died in an asylum there was not a death certificate. It was the fact that we'd found the graveyard but that there was no death certificate that lead us in that direction. You might find the same with Caleb and not be able to find the actual cause of death. I wish you luck with your searches. Incidentally, how did you find Caleb on the passenger list? That's something I might try to follow up. It would be interesting to know how long after Peter's death his widow decided to bring the family back to the UK.
27th July 2010

Caleb Edwin Jesse Irving great uncle
Hi Steve, Further to my previous email: I got in touch with a lady Archivist called Heather MacAlister who found a doc saying my great uncle was registered as a lunatic somwhere in Cape Town 1909-1912. I have been looking for this man for 17 years and a few days ago found him on a passenger ship's list Guelph London 1908. He is 37 and is down as an Engine Driver. What puzzles me is how fast he manages to get back to Cape Town and is a patient in an asylum there. He was born in Greenwich England 1871. Age 10 on 1881 census. That is all I had on him until a few days ago. Sad story. When I found out he wa an engine driver I thought he would have made something of himself. I have a feling that Pretoria Archives who Heather told me to email will tell me he died in the Asylum. It doesn't look as though he got married anywhere. I cannot understand why he returned to South Africa and not stayed with is mum and family in Greenwich. Still I know what happened to him up to a point now and might find out why he ended up in the institution.
23rd July 2010

Caleb Irving
Thank you for reply Steve I will have a look and hope something turns up. Best Wishes John Dedman
22nd July 2010

RE: Caleb Irving
Hi John, We ended up at the National Archives of South Africa. They have a website www.national.archives.gov.za On this website you need to select the "Search National Automated..." option on the left. From here select "RSA" A search for Irving will give you quite a lot to look at although I didn't immediately spot any Calebs. The dates of the documents will help. If you do find anything it will only tell you that a document exists - you won't be able to actually read it! If you go back to the website homepage and select "Services to the Public" and then "Cape Town Archives Repository" there will be a number of e-mail contacts of people in the archives office who may be able to help you. Hope this helps, Steve
21st July 2010

Caleb irving
My great uncle who was born in Greenwich Kent England on 21 June 1871 went to South Africa. And he came to London by ship in 1908 and on the passenger list he is C E J Irving (Caleb Edwin Jesse Irving) engine driver age 37. I have nothing else on him but would like to know if he got married in Cape Town where the ship picked him up and did he have a family. Grateful for any information Regards John Dedman
22nd May 2010

travel
hey steve, been reading your blogs which have been great! Don't get down! Just remember all the great memories you have created and enjoy your trips!!!!
17th May 2010

Solomon's Temple
Ethiopians will all tell you that the ark is at Axum. If it does still exist then I think very few people really know where it is.
17th May 2010

solomon temple
where is lost ark of the covenant and holy grail what temple is it like to know where everything is Im know is at solomon temple and temple of petra jordon river
13th April 2010

hi i really liked your photos and those places are really cool!!!!!
12th April 2010

My feeling was that this place was genuine but I know what you mean, Carmen. My previous experience was in East Africa where there isn't so much "hunting". But throughout Southern Africa there seemed to be so many small private game reserves and a lot of these so-called breeding centres. A quick search of the net will show the obscene amounts of money people are prepared to pay to shoot a lion.
12th April 2010

how can the public be sure that the lions bred in that center are not for trophee hunting. there has been many warnings on the net on the proliferation of breeding centers whose ultimate objectives are to raise lions who end up being shot by hunters willing to pay top money for the opportunity to shoot a lion.
7th April 2010

Cheers, Tony. It's great to have you on board! I'm sure I'll be sat on the bus talking to my "imaginary friend", Tony all the time
7th April 2010

Thanks, Sharon. There is going to be a page on the family history I've found out. Hope to have that up before I leave Cape Town. Steve
21st March 2010

Belle sene-ry
Impressed that you've managed to make this pop up second on a Google search for 'Mont de Sene'!
9th March 2010

Our visit to South Africa
We visited South Africa in December of 2009 for 3 weeks. We have friends who live there which allowed us to see the country in ways we would not have known about. They were very gracious and toured us all over the country. Our visit to the Cape was a special part of the trip if for no other reason than because it is so beautiful. They were in the process of building the stadium while we were there and there was much excitement about the games to be played. I imagine it was a nice boost to the local economy as they were feeling the impact of the recession at that time. Cape Town is one of the most beautiful areas in South Africa but I would say that anyone visiting needs to be very careful about where they go and to pay attention to who is around them. It is not the safest area one could spend time in.
5th March 2010

family relations whitwell
Hello Steve and Helen I stumbled over your site the other day and signed up well you both got to go to Africa i am very interested what you have come up with. It just shows you that family dont tell you everything about your relations. When i was reading it i felt a happy feeling, but by the end i felt sad. Hope you both enjoy your holidays and have lots of fun Sharon
4th March 2010

your blog
Greetings from Cyprus, enjoyed the blog, Regards http://anewlifeincyprus.blogspot.com/
3rd March 2010

africa
very interesting
3rd March 2010

Cape Town Hotels
Cape Town views are really wonderful .i always cant stop myself form reading about cape town. this is one of mine favourite places.. Cape Town Hotels http://www.cometocapetown.com Cape Town Hotels says: “thanks for this interesting & informative post!”
11th February 2010

I'm on board
Hey Buddy, hope those feet of yours are coping OK. I have finally remebered and found the time to hope on the bus and start touring with you. I think I'm your no. 1 fan. Have a great trip Steve and a beer for me at every opportunity........Tony
1st February 2010

Good luck Steve
I too was surprised that S Africa did not collapse into chaos, so it shows that peaceful change can take place. Hope the trip goes well. Joseph
From Blog: South Africa
30th January 2010

Hope it all works out!
I was born and bred there and have just returned from a nostalgic trip there. I can't wait to hear your comments and see your photos!
From Blog: South Africa
8th January 2010

Balthasar
Well spotted, Nick! When I sort my photos out it will Balthasar and his crew who are the Ethiopians. Caspar, however, seemed like he was trying to look like a Viking. Not sure about the authenticity of that one ?!?
7th January 2010

Cheering for the King!
Glad to see you were cheering for Balthasar - tradition suggestions that he came from Ethiopia! (Well, Ethiopian tradition suggests he came from Ethiopia, at any rate!). Happy new year ... from a very snowy and cold Hampshire! Nick

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