Day One - How to Rouen Your Vacation


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December 21st 2012
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Day One

1. Hertz-Terminal 1-Paris Cdg 0 ft 0:00:00 N49 00.825 E2 32.520 2. Get on Road and drive east 0 ft 0 ft 0:00:00 0:00:00 270° true N49 00.825 E2 32.520 3. Continue towards Pr/Paris/Toutes Directions 0.3 mi 0.3 mi 0:01:21 0:01:21 253° true N49 00.832 E2 32.446 4. Keep right towards Aérogare 2/3/Roissypole/Gare Tgv-Sncf/Paris/Lille 0.5 mi 0.2 mi 0:00:50 0:02:11 173° true N49 00.686 E2 32.515 5. Keep left towards Paris 0.9 mi 0.4 mi 0:00:55 0:03:06 246° true N49 00.510 E2 32.106 6. Take ramp to the left towards A1/St Denis/Cergy-Pontoise/Paris-Centre/Pte de la Chapelle 2.7 mi 1.9 mi 0:02:35 0:05:41 218° true N48 59.344 E2 30.478 7. Keep left onto A1/E19 towards St Denis-Centre/Paris-Pte de la Chapelle 8.4 mi 5.7 mi 0:05:19 0:11:00 248° true N48 56.270 E2 24.752 8. Keep left onto A1/E19 towards A86/A15/Saint Ouen/Paris-Pte de la Chapelle/St Denis-Pleyel/St Denis-la Plaine 10.1 mi 1.6 mi 0:02:08 0:13:08 249° true N48 56.007 E2 22.682 9. Take exit 2 to the right towards A86/A15/Saint Ouen/Paris-Pte de Clichy/St Denis-Pleyel/St Denis-la Plaine 10.9 mi 0.8 mi 0:01:04 0:14:12 249° true N48 55.765 E2 21.682 10. Keep left onto Boulevard Anatole France 11.6 mi 0.8 mi 0:01:37 0:15:49 206° true N48 55.425 E2 20.902 11. Take the A86 ramp to the right towards Gennevilliers/Cergy Pontoise/La Défense/Nanterre/Villeneuve la Garenne 11.7 mi 243 ft 0:00:07 0:15:56 230° true N48 55.399 E2 20.856 12. Continue towards Gennevilliers/Nanterre-Argenteuil/Cergy-Pontoise 12.4 mi 0.7 mi 0:01:26 0:17:22 297° true N48 55.652 E2 19.998 13. Continue on A86 towards Argenteuil/Nanterre/Cergy-Pontoise/Gennevilliers-Port 13.0 mi 0.5 mi 0:00:46 0:18:08 316° true N48 55.886 E2 19.388 14. Take the A15 ramp to the right towards Cergy-Pontoise/Argenteuil-Orgemont 14.0 mi 1.0 mi 0:01:37 0:19:45 276° true N48 56.344 E2 18.358 15. Continue on A15 towards Amiens/Cergy-Pontoise/Montmorency/Sarcelles/Sannois/St Gratien 15.7 mi 1.7 mi 0:02:07 0:21:52 348° true N48 57.145 E2 16.785 16. Continue on A15 towards Amiens/Cergy-Pontoise/Ermont 16.3 mi 0.7 mi 0:00:38 0:22:30 305° true N48 57.619 E2 16.267 17. Keep left onto A15 towards Cergy-Pontoise/Conflans Ste Honorine/Franconville-L'Épine Guyon/Montigny Les Cormeilles 17.8 mi 1.4 mi 0:01:15 0:23:45 319° true N48 58.378 E2 14.828 18. Keep left onto A15 towards Cergy-Pontoise/Conflans Ste Honorine/Herblay/Beauchamp 19.4 mi 1.6 mi 0:01:27 0:25:12 304° true N48 59.063 E2 12.992 19. Keep left onto A15 towards Meulan-Les-Mureaux/Rouen/Dieppe/Cergy-Pontoise-Autres Quartiers 26.6 mi 7.2 mi 0:06:40 0:31:52 300° true N49 02.344 E2 05.159 20. Keep left onto A15 towards Meulan-Les Mureaux/Rouen/Dieppe/Cergy-Pontoise/-Autres Quartiers 26.8 mi 0.3 mi 0:00:22 0:32:14 270° true N49 02.483 E2 04.853 21. Enter roundabout Roundabout 60.1 mi 33.3 mi 0:39:08 1:11:22 298° true N49 17.407 E1 28.781 22. Take the 2nd right onto Route de Rouen 60.1 mi 219 ft 0:00:09 1:11:31 316° true N49 17.423 E1 28.758 23. Turn left onto Route de Paris 62.6 mi 2.5 mi 0:04:49 1:16:20 311° true N49 18.602 E1 25.995 24. Turn right onto D6014 67.8 mi 5.1 mi 0:08:04 1:24:24 256° true N49 21.251 E1 21.404 25. Enter roundabout Roundabout 68.0 mi 0.3 mi 0:00:35 1:24:59 48° true N49 21.409 E1 21.671 26. Take the 2nd right onto Rue Pouyer Quertier 68.1 mi 194 ft 0:00:12 1:25:11 308° true N49 21.429 E1 21.669 27. Turn right onto Route de Vandrimare 68.7 mi 0.6 mi 0:01:31 1:26:42 316° true N49 21.821 E1 21.172 28. Turn right onto D505 70.1 mi 1.4 mi 0:02:04 1:28:46 296° true N49 22.714 E1 20.260 29. Turn left onto Route de Bourg Beaudouin 70.3 mi 0.2 mi 0:00:30 1:29:16 48° true N49 22.750 E1 20.505 30. Turn right onto Route de Paris 71.6 mi 1.3 mi 0:02:29 1:31:45 241° true N49 23.038 E1 18.883 31. Enter roundabout Roundabout 78.2 mi 6.6 mi 0:12:00 1:43:45 299° true N49 23.935 E1 10.473 32. Turn right onto D6014 towards Rouen/Le Mesnil-Esnard/St Léger Du Bourg-Denis/Darnetal 78.2 mi 153 ft 0:00:10 1:43:55 246° true N49 23.940 E1 10.452 33. Enter roundabout Roundabout 78.9 mi 0.6 mi 0:01:36 1:45:31 291° true N49 24.143 E1 09.657 34. Turn right onto D6014 towards Rouen/Le Mesnil-Esnard 78.9 mi 291 ft 0:00:14 1:45:45 226° true N49 24.151 E1 09.618 35. Keep right onto D914 towards Rouen/Bonsecours-Centre 80.5 mi 1.6 mi 0:04:13 1:49:58 319° true N49 25.013 E1 07.965 36. Keep right onto D95 81.1 mi 0.6 mi 0:01:25 1:51:23 322° true N49 25.410 E1 07.481 37. Enter roundabout Roundabout 81.2 mi 220 ft 0:00:06 1:51:29 341° true N49 25.443 E1 07.463 38. Take the 2nd right onto Avenue José-Maria de Hérédia 81.2 mi 94 ft 0:00:06 1:51:35 302° true N49 25.451 E1 07.455 39. Turn right onto Route de la Corniche 82.1 mi 1.0 mi 0:02:05 1:53:40 316° true N49 26.007 E1 06.611 40. Rouen-Panorama de la Corniche 82.2 mi 131 ft 0:00:02 1:53:42 354° true N49 26.015 E1 06.639 41. Get on Route de la Corniche and drive east 82.2 mi 4 ft 0:00:00 1:53:42 174° true N49 26.014 E1 06.639 42. Enter roundabout Roundabout 82.9 mi 0.7 mi 0:02:43 1:56:25 92° true N49 25.989 E1 07.507 43. Take the 2nd right onto Rue Annie de Pène 82.9 mi 92 ft 0:00:06 1:56:31 0° true N49 25.997 E1 07.507 44. Turn left onto Boulevard Gambetta 83.8 mi 0.9 mi 0:03:56 2:00:27 300° true N49 26.280 E1 06.345 45. Enter roundabout Roundabout 84.0 mi 0.2 mi 0:00:24 2:00:51 243° true N49 26.216 E1 06.152 46. Take the 2nd right onto Boulevard Gambetta 84.0 mi 94 ft 0:00:08 2:00:59 270° true N49 26.216 E1 06.137 47. Keep right onto Quai de Paris 84.2 mi 0.2 mi 0:00:34 2:01:33 286° true N49 26.216 E1 05.874 48. Keep right onto Quai Pierre Corneille 84.4 mi 0.2 mi 0:00:30 2:02:03 289° true N49 26.270 E1 05.614 49. Turn right onto Rue Jacques Lelieur 84.6 mi 0.2 mi 0:00:23 2:02:26 293° true N49 26.319 E1 05.418 50. Turn right onto Rue Saint-Étienne-Des-Tonneliers 84.6 mi 238 ft 0:00:19 2:02:45 23° true N49 26.355 E1 05.442 51. Rouen-Arts Et Seine Hotel 84.7 mi 341 ft 0:00:30 2:03:15 23° true N49 26.332 E1 05.519

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This pretty Christmas display kind of fooled us into thinking we'd be visiting another country just as bonkers over Christmas as the US or Germany. In fact, it was a little disappointing to see that the French weren't nearly as feverish over Christmas as we expected. I think they just see it as a day off from work.
Our plane actually landed at Paris De Gaulle Airport a few minutes early. Perhaps the bumpiness was the result of strong tailwinds. In any case, I made it across the Atlantic in one piece and without using the barfbag. Like all European airports, customs and immigration was quick and painless. It was a pretty nice hike from the arrival gate through immigration where the bored agent didn't even look at us to baggage claim. Unlike Philly or Newark, our bags were on the carousel within 5 minutes of our showing up there. After a quick potty stop and using the free video postcard machine to show our family that we made it there, we proceeded through customs where absolutely no one was checking bags or even asking if we had anything to declare.

Our first order of business was to get to the Hertz counter for our mide-size car rental. Everything was in order and went smoothly except for their acceptance of our Wells Fargo credit card. Apparently European bank cards have an embedded computer chip. Our card doesn't. We ran into the same problem a few years back when we desperately needed gas. The gas pumps kept rejecting our
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By the time we went through Immigration and took a few pictures of that Christmas display, our bags were coming around on the conveyor belt.
cards. We had to find an open station that could manually enter our card info to get approval. Instead, I gave Hertz my other Visa card and were soon loading our junk into our gold Renault Clio. I knew we were in for some difficulty when we had to arrange and re-arrange our bags a number of different times in order to get the rear hatch closed.

As we prepared to leave CDG airport I set-up my Garmin Nuvi GPS that I had so painstakingly loaded with all our hotels, sightseeing attractions and carefully planned driving routes. We were barely out of the huge garage when I noticed a huge problem - my GPS was not getting power from the cigarette lighter and was down to only half a charge already. Needless to say I was more than a bit upset. A few months we had the same problem and I had to buy a whole new charging cradle for the Nuvi because it wasn't getting power from the car's power outlet. Quite fortunately for us our rental was equipped with a rather huge integrated Tom-Tom GPS system in the dash. While I drove and fiddle with the Garmin,
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At least no free parking. Instead, we used the pay lot just below us.
Gail played around with the Renault's built-in GPS. I used the small amount of power in my Garmin to get us out of the airport area and onto a highway toward our first night's hotel in Rouen. Soon Gail figured out how to program the Tom-Tom and set our course for Rouen as well. The only problem was that the Tom-Tom was instructing me in French and my Garmin's weakened battery was whispering instructions in English. Once we were out of the heavy airport traffic we made a couple of roadside stops to try to get the Garmin working (no luck) and to set-up the Tom-Tom to instruct us in a language we understood. Halfway to Rouen we figured-out how to set the display to English and to start receiving instructions from Karen, the bored American voice on the GPS.

One lesson I've learned the hard way on these European driving trips is that no matter how refreshed I might feel after a flight, there is no way I should drive more than 3 hours on the first day. A few years back on a trip to Germany as the rest of my crew snored away in the rental
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I do the trip planning and Gail takes care of the money. You never know when you'll see the next ATM and since the European bank as well as your American bank charge fees for each use, we find it best to take out the maximum withdrawal allowed.
car minutes after we left Frankfurt airport, I kept fighting to stay awake. I actually fell asleep myself driving along the Rhine river and scared myself to death. In setting up the itinerary I decided we needed to spend our first night no more than two hours away from the airport. An old friend from my airline days, Buster, had spent some time in France during his college days and I still remember him showing us slide pictures of his experiences around Rouen. The countryside was beautiful and some of the towns he visited reeked of history. I mostly recall the beautiful stained glass windows in Rouen cathedral and decided this would be an interesting big city for us to visit. Further reading revealed the fact that this was where Joan of Arc was martyred and that the English controlled the city for much of the Middle Ages. Since we'd be there just before Christmas, we'd also get a chance to visit their famous Christmas Market.

Despite a routing that took us along some rather congested city streets then led us right back to De Gaulle airport, we finally made it to Rouen just before 3:00 pm. A drive
Beginning a Long Afternoon of ShoppingBeginning a Long Afternoon of ShoppingBeginning a Long Afternoon of Shopping

As things turned out, this first day was the only day the girls could get out and do some serious shopping. Had Cassie known this at the time she might have gone back on the next plane. The rest of the trip went through mostly small villages. The few medium-sized towns we were inlater in the trip were closed down for the Holidays .
of two hours and 15 minutes.

As I drove the weather grew progressively bleaker with intermittent periods of drizzle. However, we were thrilled to see that the temperature remained in the mid-40's. In fact, during our entire trip the temperature never dropped below 40. The long underwear, gloves and wool socks in my suitcase were never needed.

We had some difficulty finding parking anywhere close to our hotel. The Arts et Seine (http://www.artsetseine.com/ ) hotel was located on a narrow side street just a block from the Old Town. The Old Town was a pedestrian-only area which made getting around the block a tad challenging. After two times around the block with no on-street parking in sight, we bit the bullet and drove to the underground public lot. At 15€ per day it was worth the price to park just a block away from the hotel. It wasn't too much trouble to wheel our bags down the crowded street to our reasonably priced accomodations. The Arts et Seine was definitely not as luxurious as the name might imply, but the rooms were clean, the heaters worked, the host was friendly enough and spoke some English plus we were
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As soon as walked onto Rue du Gros Horloge, the pedestrians only shopping street, we were surrounded by these old medieval buildings.
footsteps away from the shopping area and the major tourist attractions.

After check-in and hauling our bags up to our rooms, we strolled up the block to explore the Old Town. While Gail and her mother had their eyes out for ATMs and Cassie was checking out all the French fashions, I was scoping out where we might get dinner. After we withdrew a couple hundred Euros from the bank around the corner from our hotel, we soon found ourselves in the middle of the bustling shopping zone. Lots and lots of people were out shopping 4 days before Christmas, but I don't recall seeing anyone with multiple bags. Nobody carrying a big screen TV or a boxed computer system. Nothing like being in an American shopping mall at Christmas. Studying the menuboards of the very few restaurants we passed, none specialized in Normandy cuisine and none looked even remotely interesting. I assumed that we'd find some nice places further up the street.

Back out on the long pedestrian street (Rue du Gros Horlage) I took in the sights and snapped far too many photos while the ladies windowshopped, then got serious. I spent a lot of that
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These houses were considered amazing feats at the time because they were six an seven stories high while most buildings were no more than two. The reason they build such tall yet narrow buildings was because the homes were taxed based on their ground floor square footage.
afternoon leaning against buildings. As we walked we noticed that the Rouenians seemed to have quite a sweet tooth. There were a good number of fancy candy shops as well as a pastry store on every corner. We passed at least three places selling macaroon cookies. Each of those shops had crowds waiting to buy. Macaroons are a local specialty.

We finally came upon some nice looking eating establishments at the end of the pedestrian zone. Instead of looking at their menus we were distracted by the oddly beautiful Joan of Arc church. There was no admission charge so we went in. As you can see in the pictures it was spacious and bright inside. It was in marked contrast to all the old cathedrals we had seen elsewhere in our European travels. This was very modern and informal. Of course, the church had the usual giftshop and plenty of candles for sale. Donation boxes were everywhere we turned. I particularly enjoyed this rehearsal:
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. By the way, that's two guys singing!

After maybe half an hour inside we headed around to the back of the church, past the site of Joan of Arc's execution and into
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See if you can spot any shoppers with a shopping bag? There were people walking around everywhere, standing around in every store, but very few were actually buying anything.
the farmer's market built under the spreading roof of the modern church. We were impressed by all the fresh ingredients on sale here on the official first day of Winter. I was hoping for a free sample or two but with our cameras around our necks we were instanlt pegged as non-buying tourists. But already we were learning that these Frenchmen and women were much different than the aloof, aka Arrogant, people of Paris. These people smiled and asked if they could help us (in French of course).

We then walked back along that same shopping street with Cassie adding more and more to her wardrobe. I was keeping my mouth shut knowing in a few days when we hit the D-Day beaches the girls would be even more bored then I was. When we reached the opposite end of the pedestrian street we were under the shadows of the great Rouen Cathedral. Spread out around the big cathedral square was a bustling Christmas Market festooned with all manner of Christmas lights and greenery and accompanied by the tempting smells of cinnamon pretzels, cotton candy, mulled wine, grilled sausages and Nutella crepes.

Grandma and I were immediately distracted
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My Michelin guide tells me that the Renaissance arch which has spanned this historic street since 1527. The clock lies roughly equidistant between the Place du Vieux Marché and the cathedral. The Gros Horloge clock dates back to the 16th century and its movement from 1389. The clock is flanked by a gothic belfry built between the 14th and the 15th centuries, which houses the bells linked to the clock’s movement. The Gros Horloge has been listed as a historic monument since 1862.
by the hot drinks stall. She headed for the Glühwein or Chaud Vin and I got a styrofoam cup of hot apple cider. While we stood around waiting for our drinks to cool, Cassie and Gail ran into yet another store where Cassie found a new pair of boots. By the time we finished our drinks the shoppers had returned. We took a lesiurely stroll through the marketplace often tempted but never succumbing to the many fine wares on display. When we reached the door to the cathedral we headed inside. Again, no entrance fee. Had this been my first or even fifth or tenth European cathedral I might have been more impressed. The fact is it looked like any one of 50 others I had been inside. But the real attraction was the gorgeous stained glass windows inside. I thought these might be the most colorful and stunning I had seen in any cathedral anywhere. Unfortunately because it was now twilight there was not enough light to get a good photo. Add one more place to my list of destinations I need to revisit.

After making our way back through the Christmas Market we returned to our parked
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This is the centerpiece of Rouen's Old Town. The two face of the clock shows 24 rays of sun against the blue representing the night sky. I saw just an hour hand and no minute sweep. At the top of the clock you can keep track of the full and crescent moons.
car which now sat in a far emptier lot. We took out a few more items and stowed some of our purchases then headed back to the Arts et Seine. As tempting as it was to take a nap, we knew that we needed to keep moving. Falling asleep at 6 pm would have us wide awake at 2 in the morning. The only way to quickly adjust to the time difference was to stay awake until normal bedtime.

Soon we headed back into Old Town in search of dinner. We walked and walked and walked but could not find a restaurant we liked. There were Chinese places, kebab stands, hamburger joints and plenty of bakeries, but no sitdown restaurants serving French food. We walked the full length of two main streets and found nothing to satisfy. Near the Joan of Arc church the restaurants we saw earlier were either closed or served Italian food. Two that had outdoor dining had menus with prices that would have us spending double the cost of our two hotel rooms.

I was ready to just go back to Quick and have hamburgers when Cassie and Gail chimed in. At some point
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These Europeans are a hardy breed. We encountered plenty of places with outdoor tables occupied by folks in the 40 degree weather. Since all of us were fighting colds, we always stayed inside where things were nice and warm.
during our shopping jaunt they had spotted a chain restaurant called "Paul" (http://www.paul.fr/ ), a favorite of Cassie's from her student days in London. She had also eaten in one in Paris during an EF tour. It was located halfway down the pedestrian shopping street and next door to an electronics shop. Paul turned out to be the European version of Panera, probably my least favorite fast food chain in America. But being as hungry as we were and with shelves full of delicious smelling fresh French bread, this little restaurant worked out quite well for us. I had the first of what would soon become my go-to sandwich of choice during the entire trip - ham and cheese. Little did I know at the time, this would be the very best of the dozen or more ham and cheese sandwiches I had in the next two weeks. The baguette was perfect: hard on the outside, but chewy once you bit into it. Normally I remember to take pictures of all my meals when in Europe but I pretty much forget to take any unless Gail reminded me to do so this time. There is no photographic record of the
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This was not listed in the guidebook but was one of the most impressive buildings on the street. My guess is that it's Renaissance rather than medieval.
best sammy of the trip.

After our somewhat light dinner, we stopped in the big electronics store next door where some very helpful English speaking employees showed me chargers for my Garmin Nuvi. My big quandry was trying to determine if the reason my GPS wasn't recharging was because my cigarette adapter was bad or because the outlet in the car was faulty. I could either buy a new ciggie lighter charger or an electrical plug that would allow me to charge the unit in my hotel room. In the latter case I could only use the GPS for a few hours before the battery would die. I decided that this was the way to go. The Nuvi had worked just fine in my car at home and I really doubted that the sturdy car adapter had broken safely packed inside my suitcase. Since either type of charger was priced at only 10€, I guess I coul've bought both but something told me the car adapter couldn't have been broken. As it turned out, I was right. When we got home the Nuvi worked just fine with that same cigarrete lighter plug in my car. The outlet in the
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I was starving so when I spotted a Quick (http://www.quick.fr/) hamburger shop I led the group inside. I wasn't overly impressed with the menu or selections, but settled on a bacon burger with Durkee canned onion rings, fries and the smallest fountain Coke I ever saw. Eight Euro! Almost ten bucks for a snack. I must admit it was pretty tasty and the fries were better than McDonald's. The bathroom came in handy also. Too bad I walked into the lady's room by mistake.
Renault must've been broken or had a blown fuse.

After that purchase it was around 8:30 and all of us were beginning to tire. We headed back to the hotel, watched a little TV and went to bed rather early. The room Cassie and I shared was the bigger of the two, but faced the narrow little street. The innkeeper had told us it might get a little noisy at night. Indeed throughout the night we often heard drunken voices on the street and cars honking (in France the cars waiting at a red light hit their horns almost simultaneously with the light changing), but it hardly deterred us from getting a good night's rest.


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Obviously I am very focused on eating this hamburger.
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One of the best decorated stores we saw in Rouen.
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I may be about to turn sixty on this trip, but I still have the sense of humor of a twelve year old.
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C&A is probably Cassie's favorite store when we visit Europe. (Un)fortunately they seem to be in every medium to large Western European city we visit. And everytime I'm with her Dougie ends up leaning against a wall or finding a bench to sit on for the next hour or so. I have no clue what she ended-up getting inside, but the picture reminds me that I had plenty of time to study every person walking down that street.
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I saw this in one of the shop windows while waiting for the girls to finish shopping.
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And the new French word is "Gaufres". We would call them "Belgian Waffles". Most restaurants' dessert menus listed crepes and gaufres with a wide variety of toppings. And up until this day I thought that crepes could be served with ham and/or cheese as well as vegetables. That's an American bastardization. Crepes are a dessert. Galettes, made with buckwheat, look like a crepe but are filled with meat and/or veggies.
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The French really really love their bread. Throughout our entire trip we constantly saw people walking down the streets, even out in the country, carrying loaves of breads inder the arms. It is incredibly good, but could you really eat a couple of loaves every single day?


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