How do you think this might affect your travels as it is slowly (or for some, too quickly) implemented?
This has been all over the news with the poll results on the referendum finalized the other day. Whether you live or travel in countries that may be affected by this -- what would you guess could be possible affects when it comes to travel, transportation, currency, etc?
This could be quite an emotive subject. Currently there is a lot of hearsay and speculation, on how long and in some cases if it will all go ahead. The laws that are in place have to be followed but the government still have to vote on issues relating to the best interests of the country as a whole.
Passports issues might be that they will be stopped this is unlikely and most of us will just have a non EU passport when it comes to renewal, we will have to show them more to move around the world and possibly have visa's in place for countries that currently aren't visa controlled for us. Maybe we will start to have our passports stamped again, I remember those days!
I am unclear as to any transportation issues that may arise, maybe the services will actually improve and busses and trains might arrive on time!
The currency will continue to fluctuate for a while until the market settles down, I have seen a difference of 10 Croatian Kona in the last week (around 1p GBP) as the pound has gone up and down.
It will take time, a lot of it to see the ramifications, but the country is not going to be isolated and the Brits will be able to come and go (you'd be amazed at some of the posts on fb!) of course other countries might not want us spending our money there anymore and ill feeling towards us might drive us away, it will be a long and arduous process.
First, I want to congratulate the UK for getting their country back. There are a number of other EU countries who were waiting for Brexit so that they could follow in the wake. So the UK still has many friends within the EU, just not German and perhaps France. The EU is certainly going to have to change the way they impinge on the sovereignty of their member states and begin to improve economically through less regulation or loose more members, especially the net contributors. As for how this will effect travel, I don't think it will affect non-EU countries much, although I appreciated the fall of the pound making travel to a relatively expensive country less so. As you UK travelers to the EU, from an American point of view, the UK travelers should not be treated any differently than other developed non-members states like the U.S., Norway, Switzerland, Australia, New Zealand, etc. The UK never joined the Schengen area of open borders or the euro, so at least border and currency issues are already separated. I subscribe to the Economist and really enjoy reading their insights as to what is likely to happen.
Bob, I have to disagree with you: I don't think the British 'got their country back', as no-one had taken it from them in the first place! As a Spanish who has been living in UK since 2003 I am really sad that they voted to leave the EU, specially since lots of people based their vote on the lies they were being told during the campaign and that now are being uncovered.
I just hope that things don't get so difficult for us Europeans that we will have to leave, because I really like it here: this is my home, where I grew up as an adult, where I lived without my parents for the first time, where I met my husband and where our daughter was born; as for traveling, I guess that going to see our families in Spain and Germany will not be as easy as it has been until now and we would need a passport instead of just our national ID.
Up to last week, I was really happy and felt like home here, however now I can't help but thinking that many of my neighbors don't want me here - I guess they didn't want me before neither, but I didn't know it! Having said that, I am glad I live in a town where the majority voted to remain 😊
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Just to say that Britain didn't vote to throw people out of the country but for the country to take backs it's own power so that limits can be made on a very tiny place which under the EU is not able to sustain the continued immigration levels, plus many other area's that affect the UK and not other member states. The UK never voted to go into the EU only the Common Market but got sucked in through a variety of governments over the last 30 plus years and although there has been a vote it is still not a forgone conclusion that the country will leave as it has to go through a vote in the commons to change the law and given the state of all parties this could go anyway at the current time.
If it was the case of all non British leaving Britain it would be one very empty island!
I'm sorry to hear you feel like that Deni. I'm sure most of your neighbours are happy to have you there. We are not in the UK at the moment so haven't witnessed this first hand, but the stories of the race-hate that is happening right now are saddening. Unfortunately the outcome seems to have legitimised racism in some people's minds. With that, the lack of leadership and inter-party conflict and the plunging pound and rocky economy, I see the outcome of the vote as deeply troubling. Let's hope the long term impact is more positive.
In terms of travel, the current exchange rate against the dollar makes travel abroad much more expensive for those in the UK. This will likely mean more Brits holidaying in the UK, which will be positive for the holiday market in the UK, but could impact the holiday market in countries such as Greece, Spain and Portugal, whose economies are not strong. It's also going to mean less long-haul travel in the short term at least, as flight prices increase and the pound doesn't go as far.
For us, as with many expat teachers, it will be interesting to see what is agreed regarding work abroad, as it's so much easier to work in an EU country legally than another. For English teachers from the UK, who at the moment are able to work in the EU visa free and without competition from teachers from outside, it could make it more difficult to get jobs, both in terms of paperwork and in terms of increased competition from those from Australia, New Zealand, Canada, South Africa and the USA. At present, those who work there have access to free healthcare and social security. Will this remain? For the huge market for students coming to the UK to study English, will this mean that those from the EU may soon look elsewhere to study, because they will have to apply for a visa anyway. If this affects this business, then English teachers in the UK could lose their jobs. There are programs such as the Leonardo Project who partner newly qualified language teachers with schools in France and Spain, funded by the EU, which may cease to exist, and with it such opportunities. Let's hope the negotiations go in favour of these things.
We will be watching.....
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I was responding to how Brexit might affect travel...not immigration. I hope that those who have already immigrated will be allowed to stay unless they are criminals/terrorists.
I can easily travel to Norway or Switzerland today and I expect no problems for EU-nationals in the future. I am also surprised that the British complain about eastern European immigrants. We in Germany didn't allow them in the country for several years after Poland etc. joined the EU and this was absolutely fine for the EU. If the British government did something else in order to lower wages for the economy that the people should blame them. Of course the German government did something totally different for the Arab "refugees".
Interesting to read the range of responses. I wonder how many years it might take for Brexit to actually be implemented? Another interesting question is what will happen to Gibralter (Gibraltar, few days after the Brexit....
On my part, as an outsider, I'm quite saddened by Brexit and how it seems to have made political/cultural divisions more concrete. Without sharing any presumptuous opinions on my part, I'm following the various anecdotes and perspectives with great curiosity. Someday we will look back on this as a historic moment with the luxury of hindsight whatever unfolds and, I suspect, learn a lot from it.