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What kind of traveller DONT you want to be?

A little bit of lighthearted fun...and some Im serious about.
9 years ago, May 23rd 2011 No: 1 Msg: #136842  
B Posts: 897
I dont want to -

1. Skype on a laptop on beaches
2. Ever say "Wrong price, wrong size, wrong color, wrong style" - wouldnt that mean wrong country?
3. Write a blog complaining about the price of everything and whine about rats in rooms, bedbugs, bad food that cost 5 cents or sore legs from walking miles rather than negotiate a fair price with a driver..its how people make their living in their country. If everything sucks so much stay home.
4. Write a blog about every single person encountered in a country being a pervert or a scammer or a pushy salesperson or a gangster out to rip me off...if I continually get abused or punched in the face perhaps its me who is doing something wrong..or wrong country again?
5. Pack 5 trunks of costumes and props for photoshoots of me rather than the scenery
6. Scream at a store assistant that they should speak english and demand to know what sort of country does not stock jalapeno sauce..or vegemite...or marmite
7. Scream at a parent on a plane to shut their child up
8. Spend all my time in the same bar drinking and return home with photos of..a bar.
9. Spend all my time at a resort and never leave the resort grounds - even if leaving the resort grounds to go to the mall attached to the hotel equates to ''going out''
10. Have my hair braided or dreadlocked so i ...fit in.
11. Walk around in my bikini on a main tourist street...put some bloody clothes on.
12. EVER walk anywhere in a thong/gstring with a man in a thong/gstring
13. Get so wasted I think everyone is my friend and wants to breathe in my whisky breathe while im talking in one long sentence because all the wordsarejoinedtogethermate
14. Write a blog about how disgusting locals are for eating local foods...even if that does mean dogs
15. Barge around with a wheeled terror crushing other peoples ankles (Thanks for that one Shane)
16. Complain that India is too dirty and Singapore is too clean
17. Select hotels based solely on availability of wifi signal
18. Think every person who looks at me is either sizing up ways to rob me or rape me
19. Never talk to a local person only other tourists/travellers and book organised tours every day
20. Play travel one upmanship...Ive been to Bali too.

All above have been observed........what are your pet traveller/tourist peeves. Reply to this

9 years ago, May 23rd 2011 No: 2 Msg: #136846  
Cindy-- your list is comprehensive and I would like to comment on a couple of them.

In January 2004 we traveled to Hawaii. It was a last minute trip. We planned it three days before we left town. I called about fifteen places before we found one that had a room available in the lower end price range that we were in search of. We were sad when we got there to find most of the people staying in this hotel were from Oregon and Minnesota. We immediately headed out to meet other some other people.

On a similar vein--- why is it people riding buses think we want to hear their phone calls and talk really loud. I think cell phones should be banned from public transportation.....and in restaurants.... and in parks......oh, in the grocery store..... guess you get where I am heading with this.

We were in Costa Rica with some friends who do not travel much. Our friend ordered a gin and tonic and he was requesting Bombay Sapphire Gin. The gentleman taking the order did not understand and our friend started repeating the request over and over again louder and louder. We were embarrassed and wanted to crawl under a rock. We think for a moment for he actually thought if he said it louder that the gentleman might understand his request.

I love to travel because I make new friends. I love to talk with strangers--- they do not stay that way long. Reply to this

9 years ago, May 23rd 2011 No: 3 Msg: #136871  
Was sitting in the Bus Terminal in La Paz ,meditating to the chants of all the venders pitching their wares, thinking how great life is. Got on the bus and as soon as the doors were shut a group of young Nth American bakpakers started complainig "Thank god we can't hear that noise anymore, it was driving me crazy". "Yes, why can't they get a real job" ect ect ect,
I never want to be a traveller like them. Reply to this

9 years ago, May 24th 2011 No: 4 Msg: #136999  
I had my first mini trip away from the children after 16 years of marriage and said children to Holland and Belgium - a 3day break .I was so excited I bounced around being ultra chatty and friendly to everybody I met including some drug dealers doing a deal, fortunately Robert steered me away! I gave our address and invited people to visit. I was like Tigger from Winnie the poo on speed! In Bruges I ate too many chocolates and got food poisoning from shrimps and was quite sick, which finally shut me up. I definately don't want to be that sort of traveller now I am 61 - I'll have to turn the manic knob down a bit! Reply to this

9 years ago, May 24th 2011 No: 5 Msg: #137005  
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Cindy -

Interesting list.

I was wondering what, if any, are the differences between travelers/tourists. Or have you grouped them together because they are ultimately two peas from the same pod?

Jason Reply to this

9 years ago, May 25th 2011 No: 6 Msg: #137091  
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Bridget you had me laughing with the tigger on speed..whats wrong with that at 61? other than the food poisoning LOL. I admit to having been guilty of falling into the ultra friendly trap and ending up in a heroin dealers home in Cambodia.

Jason..good question and one I asked myself after reading your question. Initially I think of tourists as the package tour or repeat visitor to bali same hotel same restaurants once a year type person, and the traveller as the person who plans their own journey and goes to see what they have a yearning to see..and then realised that essential, both are ultimately peas in a pod. Someone like my sister who would never contemplate travelling anywhere other than to Bali at the same hotel with the same group of people at the same time of year is really seeing what she wants to see. Perhaps I am showing signs of travel snobbery lol - I guess if thats what she wants, then to her, its as valued as ending up in destinations unplanned for someone like me. Personal perception? Reply to this

9 years ago, May 26th 2011 No: 7 Msg: #137150  
Great list Cindy.

We don't understand the laptops on beaches thing. Doesn't the sand get into the mechanisms and wreck it?

In SE Asia it's expected to barter, but I've seen people try to barter so hard with a vendor that it's just unfair. In Luang Prabang a few years ago someone was trying to get a stone chess set for about $2. Remember that these people are trying to make a living. If you can afford it, pay it.

"If it sucks so much stay at home". Here here.

One more I'd like to add:

I hope I never blog negative things about my boss, housemates, family, friends who I've mentioned by name/pictured. It's the internet guys. They can read exactly what you said about them to the whole world. Do you think they will be your boss/housemates/friends much longer after they read what you said? Reply to this

9 years ago, May 26th 2011 No: 8 Msg: #137210  
Great list Cindy... and I wouldn't do any of them except one.

#1.... Would I skype on the beach? Yeh probably! Don't get me wrong, I don't think I'd ever ring some friends, say "look where I am and you're not... HA!"

If I noticed on the beach that there's WiFi, my sons are playing (digging holes, stuffing sand in their ears etc..) and it's a reasonable time in the UK, would I video call my folks and show them their ONLY grandchildren, grandchildren they haven't seen for months, grandchildren that are at an age where they change literally daily, playing away enjoying themselves...? I almost certainly would. That call would probably make them smile for the better part of a month, and I'm not going to feel guilty about it. 😊

This kind of ties in with the other thread that's been started about technology. I'm carrying around kilos and kilos of technical crap. I love tech, I loved tech when I was home and now I'm travelling long term I'm not going to stop loving it, so I bring it with me.... 3 years ago (before the netbook) I carried a full 15" laptop on our RTW and so many people were amazed that I had a computer with me which wasn't for work purposes. I was made to feel like I was missing out by not leaving such a bind at home. Of course, if those same people were travelling now they almost certainly would have a computer on them as pretty much everyone has one now they're more portable. The world is changing fast and the proliferation of WiFi is making it pretty damn tiny. Reply to this

9 years ago, May 27th 2011 No: 9 Msg: #137271  
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Hello everybody,

Thank you, for discussing and putting your opinion about your travel preferences. I don't really want to go to New Orleans because it's mostly about partying, drinking, music and old history. It's not a place that really interests me. If someone offered me a ticket to New Orleans, I would most likely decline and say "find someone else to go with". If it were my parents, I would stay home, I don't really comfortable staying at home all alone for a long period of time so I'd most likely get a friend to stay with it. Or at least, for nights.

Also, if there is a place that you have been that you didn't like, you may post it.

I don't mind people who like or live in New Orleans, it's just not a place I would personally want to visit as it doesn't seem as I'd enjoy the touristy stuff.

Thanks and regards,
- Bery Smith. Reply to this

9 years ago, May 27th 2011 No: 10 Msg: #137295  
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Was watching the bathrooms on the train coming into NYC. This very smug guy came out and used a paper towel to shut the door. (We all know that germs cannot go through paper towels now.) Then he used his bare elbow to open the garbage to throw away the towel. (We all know it is okay to get germs on your elbow.) Then turned to walk back to his seat, laying his hand on the back of the first chair as he went by. (No germs on the back of the chair check.)

Alright I was rolling with laughter at this point. Reply to this

9 years ago, May 28th 2011 No: 11 Msg: #137335  
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In response to: Msg #137295


Lee Ann, what you just observed about this guy is a classic sign of Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD). He might have an irrational thoughts of germs contamination, hence exhibits strange ritualistic behaviour to alleviate his anxiety or fear of germs. It's a chronic psychological disorder and can be treated with behavioral or psychotherapy.

Strangely, I too probably have a very mild case of OCD as I exhibit such strange behaviour sometimes, especially in public toilets ! I also use paper towel or toilet paper to open/close toilet door. I also put paper towel on the toilet seat - not only because of the germs but also because I don't wanna be sitting on somebody else's urine and 'what-not' . Though I'm not like that at home, as I figured I'm immune to my family's germs. 😱

My friend's husband have a bad case of OCD. He spends hours repeatedly washing his hands. He is undergoing behavioral therapy and apparently it's working.


Cindy, ditto for #3.4,6 and 18 .

- Dont' wanna be constantly whining.
- I actually feel guilty if I think I didn't pay enough because it's way too cheap or should have given them a good tip for a great service. Locals in the tourism industry do deserve a fair trade for their goods and services so they can put better food on their family table and perhaps afford to send their kids to school.
- also not all locals who are overly friendly are out to scam you. It's one thing to exercise personal safety and precaution, but it's a different thing to just being plain paranoid.

[Edited: 2011 May 28 06:06 - josworld:15287 - typos]
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9 years ago, May 28th 2011 No: 12 Msg: #137357  
Fascinating - particularly #20 (in some ways by making lists of who we don't want to be - which I imagine comes from observed experiences - aren't we all already doing that?)

This is, of course, not intended to accuse or offend - I just happen to find tourist stigma an incredibly interesting concept, so please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. Reply to this

9 years ago, May 29th 2011 No: 13 Msg: #137409  
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Hey not offended at all S & A - I did actually question my travel snobbery earlier in this thread and realised thats perhaps a part of it..ironically, aided and abetted by technology. I can blog about things, 27 years ago I didnt even have a camera and the interwebs were a far off dream. Why do I keep a record of these trips here - to play travel oneupmanship or to keep a reminder of who I was for my children should I suddenly depart. But would I skype about it on a beach, no.

As ive gotten older ive learnt theres actually nothing wrong with playing tourist, ive been on a few tours, usually private ones to places I want to see - id rather be on a local bus. Age and time constraints mean I am acting as a tourist (daytripper) rather than a traveller (been gone three years, will be home sometime in june) more often. I dont think they would let me keep my job If i took off for three years nowdays.

The problem with Bali for me (and why I used that example) is there are currently 16 flights coming in and out to bali per 12 hour period..its the place where West Aussies go because for $500 you can have a week overseas. A city hotel is $240 a night here. Theres even a song called "Ive been to Bali too".

Bery - I feel the same way about cities like New York and Vegas..they just dont do it for me. If I won a holiday to vegas Id give it to my sister. Reply to this

9 years ago, June 1st 2011 No: 14 Msg: #137617  
I have to say that Cindy, you have written a pretty comprehensive trip!

Personally I have never brought anything technical with me except for my camera, I just see it all as extra weight and I like to hear the sounds that surround me as it's all part of the experience! I have never thought of bringing an i-pod. Although since travelling with my daughter who is now 6, I do bring my mobile phone (cel phone) partly for emergencies and partly, should we disspear you can track our last known movements!
I do use internet cafes but with a small child in tow you barely get to write a few messages home, I am trying to catch up on three years of blogs now!!!

I have also changed my style of travelling a bit, I think, We end up finding a "project", a school or something and probably see less touristy places, partly because a tired child stops making the whole thing pleasurable (which would happen if I dragged her every day to see every sight possible) and partly cos sometimes it is just fun to sit in a square and just chat to the locals!

Buy some things from some sellers, barter a little bit as it helps everyone but then settle for a price quite soon! Definitely be happy to pay a bit more than a local!

As for free tickets, well there are some places that are higher on my wish list than others but if someone were to give me a free ticket, I would go there, it's a free ticket who knows what adventures might lie ahead of you and you might find a completely different city/place to what you had assumed the place would be!

Having said that, I do dig your Bali answer! Reply to this

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