Female sex tourists: Do they exist?

In my humble opinion in a country with a free s*xual moral like Thailand - for example - prostitution is more easily accepted - be it male or female - and s*x and love not necessarily one and the same.

Not so sure prostitution is readily acceptable to main stream society in Thailand. I have heard white European men with Asian descent European wives and girlfriends complain about their partners being accused of being prostitutes while they travelled in Thailand and some other Asian countries.

As well as that, many hotels in Thailand have signs up saying they dont allow Thai people or people without foreign passports into the hotel rooms. I asked one hotel in Bangkok why they have that rule. They said, if the Thai person is staying the entire night then they are allowed into the rooms. Looks to me like many hotels take a dim view to prostitutes frequenting their joint.
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I agree the "Raped by fathers" thing seems very strong and one eyed. I am sure it is not so.
Actually there are so many opinions, points of view, moral stances etc. My point is live and let live, judge not less ye be judged as the Bible says. We can hypothesize, theorize and categorize all we want but unless e walk in their shoes, unless we live in their mind and have been brought up in their society how can we have the right to judge?
I am not interested to go to war with anyone over an opinion, we already had two world wars and are about to go into the third because people just cant live and let live, Accept that others see the world differently.
Too much emphasis on sex in the world. What about hunger, labor injustice, violence etc.?
Like why do people let their children watch violent cartoons, programs, movies and play violent games but make sexuality out to be evil?
Do you all know that matrelinial based societies are always practicing sexual freedom whereas it is the male dominated ones which repress and pervert by creating the duality of attitudes?
There are plenty of tribes that see sexuality as a natural thing, the desire and need for it as natural as eating, drinking and sleeping.
Also all sexual commerce is a matter of trade be it for cash, favors, mutual satisfaction, material security, etc . You take a western female out on a date and pay her with food, entertainment , flattery etc.
The bad press for men is in the press or media. Like when a man gets caught in a relationship with a young female he is a monster but when a female does it is almost a joke. Double standards.
I am not in the habit of looking for trouble or trying to interfere with others ways of life, I am not a christian missionary or a member of any western government organization intent on making the world conform to my ideas or rightness.
"Live and let live without condemnation or judgment", This is the way to global peace. Let each tribe have its own culture in its own land. If you don't agree with it don't go there. People would be better spending their time and energy on self improvement and self analysis rather than always putting others under the microscope or spotlight.
Try to enjoy your own life instead of picking others lives to pieces and putting them down just to make yourself feel better.
What if the vegetarians got control and forced all of you to stop the disgusting habit of animal murder and meat eating?
I though i was going to leave this subject alone. I don't care really what anyone else thinks or how they choose to live as long as they don't start messing in my simple life.
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This is not necessarily true! There are men and women who see that they can make money to better themselves or support their families by selling s*x.

I think there may be quite a lot of truth in this. In many countries with dismal earning opportunities there tends to be a lot of prostitution.

It isnt just Asia. Prostitution was common in E. Europe too in the bad old days. In a museum in Prague I read something about why it was such an attractive option for many women. If people managed to score some foreign currency and handed it over to the authorities they were rewared with special issue currency that was worth more than the regular currency of the country. A 20 US dollar gift a women received in exchange for a night of passion in those days would provide her with the equivalent of what it took a shop owner a month to earn.

Maybe men in some countries these days are hoping to step into the this lucrative ''career'' and earn more than they could by other means. And maybe this is becomming possible with the current gender crisis that is happening in Western countries. While it is a good thing that women have rights and their earning potential has increased they have not had their rights long enough to know how to use them. Many still believe the way to freedom and happiness is to become more man like and this is providing a market for male prostitutes in less affluent countries.

There are also many women working in bars who are there because some guy they fell for left them when they became pregnant leaving the woman to raise the child alone.

As a mother, I can certainly understand the desire a mother would have to provide the best for her child. Or at least to provide enough financially for her child. It has to be heartbreaking for the mothers who know they cant put food in their childrens mouths everyday. It would be a very real reason that would drive a women to prostitution. It would be little or nothing to do with prostitution being acceptabe or not acceptable where she lives. She just knows that she cant bare to see her children hungry. I dont think she would keep selling sex if any other option at all became available.
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I've often heard European women say they didn't discover their s*xuality untill they were well into their thirties.

This has more to do with brain chemistry and it is specific to women rather than European women. More accurately, they do discover their sexuality before their 30s and then their sex drive increases in their 30s and peaks at age 38.

But, I think you have a point about upbringing and the culture/s a woman experiences. How much a women can allow herself to express her sexuality can be to some extent dependent on the society she wants to or has to fit into.

I will readily accept that many women working the "Game" don't have an easy background. Many women just consider prostitution as an easy way to make quick and easy money, or even for plain old s*x.

I think in wealthier countries expensive habits such as drug addiction may also play a part.


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I don't know about sex 'tourism' as such, but when I travel I intend to be a bit more *ahem* shall we say 'free spirited' than I have been at home. :D European men are so sexy. Reply to this

Well when the woman pays for the hotel, pays for the dinners, pays for the transportation and also buys lots of other things for her "guy" of the day - she is paying for IT!

What if she is not paying for it? What if he is paying or they are both paying? What if no money is involved at all? What if she is going to someplace where she expects to meet men she finds attractive? Can that be defined as sex tourism? Or does the term sex tourism only apply where prostitution is concerned.

I can understand what Stacey is talking about in Msg 49. When I was single, I used to prefer too to date more exotic men, meaning ones that are not from where I am from. That generally is done while travelling. It was one of the aspects I looked forward to. As well as seeing new places I wanted to meet new people and exciting dating prospects too. Did that mean my travelling was sex tourism? Or is it only sex tourism if I was dating a guy for a country that is not as wealthy as the one I come from? Or it it only sex tourism if I pay more than he does for whatever we do together? Reply to this

i want to know where these matrelinial societys are

In Yunnan province in China (around Lijiang, Dali, Kunming) a matriarchal society exists to the point that men and women do not marry, women own all the businesses and land and choose the men with whom they want to have sex with - specifically for getting the best 'genes' for their children. Men in this area of China have no responsibilities with the children concerning support or bringing them up, the women do all of this and basically rule the roost!

For us it was a very interesting part of China as it was so different to the rest of the country and for the first time in the whole of China we saw two lesbians openly showing affection.

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actually, i wonder if most societies are matrelineal! I reckon women have the decision making power in most societies! But thats another discussion.
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...Maybe the power and control associated with paying for companionship is in a reaction to the amount of power somebody may feel in their home country. If you feel unable to find relationships at home, then touring the world in search of it may give you that.

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yeah, you're right - just having the informal power in society (eg wife nags lazy man) doesn't mean the society is matrilineal. Is Sweden or Norway matrilineal?
BTW, England is debating wether to allow a change in royal succession to allow the female first born to take the throne, rather than a male born after her - doesn't really matter though as all the male heirs are lined up for the next 60 or so years...

Your german friend should have used a condom!

A female friend of mine recently spent a month in Africa in a village after her best friend went to find an African guy she had slept with, and been sending money to him for a year or so, about 11 grand i think they said. When they turned up, the man completely ignored her and disappeared. I think she was told he had a number of foreign girlfriends who have bought him cars etc etc.

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About the matrilineal society in China. Does anyone know what led to it? Often in depressed societies women become overly responsible, while men become docile. Dont know if this is the case in that place in China or not. Reply to this