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Congratulations to Barack Obama

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And also to the Democrats and the USA.
10 years ago, November 5th 2008 No: 1 Msg: #53523  
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History was made in the previous 24 hours - Barack Obama became first black president of the USA. He is also probably the most internationally aware president for decades.

After (apart from) the economy - which issues do you think need to be top of the inbox in the oval office when Barack walks in for the first time? (in 76 days!)
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10 years ago, November 5th 2008 No: 2 Msg: #53525  
I second that. Being in a battle ground state we were a major focus of the race with both candidates visiting my town. The excitement was palpable today. Currently people are out on the streets cheering, honking car horns and occasionally launching fireworks.

While there are more urgent things to put on top of his inbox, I am looking forward to his proposed expansion of the Peace Corps. Reply to this

10 years ago, November 5th 2008 No: 3 Msg: #53535  
I am pleased about the election result but certainly not only because he is the first black president but because I have hopes that he will bring some positive changes. And as so many people say ''he wont be worse than Bush''. :D

....which issues do you think need to be top of the inbox in the oval office when Barack walks in for the first time?



I am hoping he will improve world relations with the US which is important for us here in the EU since we are close allies of the US.......
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10 years ago, November 5th 2008 No: 4 Msg: #53561  
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Woohoo ! 😊

My inbox is inundated with emails today informing me that Obama won the US presidential election.

I watched the Obama vs. McCain debate and what made me root for Obama is his plan to address environmental issues such as global warming by pushing towards the use of green energy sources (solar/hydropower, geothermal, clean coal technologies etc.) as oppose to McCain's continued reliance on OIL and nuclear energy. Come to think of it, the industrialised world's insatiable appetite for oil is the culprit of global warming in the first place and one of the main causes of worldwide economic meltdown.

The consumers drive the economy. As people tighten their belts because of the increasing cost of living due to skyrocketing oil prices, sales start to plummet...businesses close down...workers lose their jobs...households unable to pay their mortgages...banks lose revenue streams...causes credit crisis...the whole domino effect where everything comes crashing down to global economic recession. The sad thing is, consumerism is what fuels the growth of the economy but at the expense of the environment. We are on the path to consume our planet 'til depletion of our natural resources.

Anyway, my point is, OIL is bad for the environment and hold the world to ransom whoever controls it. Obama has the right plan going towards renewable and sustainable energy.

cheers !
Jo 😊
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10 years ago, November 5th 2008 No: 5 Msg: #53582  
I cogratulate the people of USA to elect a president who we believe is more aware about the present international scenerio . i am sure he knows , who is the prime minister of india? We in India know him as Bharat obama and not as barak o bama . I am not sure weather he has the small statue of lord Hanuman in his pocket or not but then good to know that because on every Tues day i try to go to temple of lord Hanuman. jai BAJRANGBALI KI. Reply to this

10 years ago, November 5th 2008 No: 6 Msg: #53588  
So, what is it like on the streets in the US right now for those who are there? Are there celebrations? Reply to this

10 years ago, November 5th 2008 No: 7 Msg: #53595  
Interestingly enough its pretty tame for the most part. A lot of people (McCain supporters) seem very frightened, angry, upset which has been a bit of a downer. I'm not really sure what they're afraid of but respect their opinions and try to give them some space. The rest of us are excited, hopeful but, at the same time, weary because its been such a long, difficult and painful election period here. It'll be nice to let things settle down again! Reply to this

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10 years ago, November 5th 2008 No: 9 Msg: #53602  
I can't express the relief and overwhelming joy I felt as I watched, with the world and more than 100,000 live American supporters, hear the first words of Barack Obama after winning the presidential election. His speech was honest, engaging, and inspirational. I'm so happy to believe in a president again. Its been so long since you looked to your president for guidance and trusted him. I'm thrilled to see the changes America will go through due to this positive change. For the first time, in a long time, I feel very proud of the president that will represent the nation I live in.
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10 years ago, November 5th 2008 No: 10 Msg: #53603  
Oh! And, yes I am hosting a "political victory party" tomorrow night. So, yes there are celebrations! Reply to this

10 years ago, November 6th 2008 No: 11 Msg: #53622  
The top concerns:
ending the Iraq War
turning the economy around
Diplomacy with Iran / Syria
reducing Dependence on Oil
Destroying Bin-Laden / Al Qaeda
Reversing 8 years of Anti-environmental policy of the Bush Administration

Personally in California it was like a New Years Eve celebration! I was at home watching the results, when the news stations officially called the race for Obama I started to hear screams and cheers from outside. I walked outside and up and down the street, people in cars were yelling, screaming with joy, cheers!! It was so incredibly inspiring and lasted for over 20 minutes. Even when democrats won previous elections this was not the reaction or interest level.
Borat, er Barack Obama '08!!!! Yes we Can, Yes we Did!!



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10 years ago, November 6th 2008 No: 12 Msg: #53638  

Im glad the conservatives are scared, they should be.



Would somebody shed some light on which policies exactly they are scared of?

On another site a republican posted that she and her husband are gun owners and dont want to give up their rights to own guns. She also said she listened to the points of view of Democrats and found them vaporous. Reply to this

10 years ago, November 6th 2008 No: 13 Msg: #53679  
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Stephen - While the Bush image is funny...it's not really accurate. He would have been considered "fired" had he actually been running - and most certainly would have gotten crushed - and thus, "fired". But since we have term limits...it's not quite like he was fired. But still...I see the humor.

Mel - I'll do my best to guess at why some are afraid. First of all, as in any place, people here have varying views on how to address problems - both nationally and internationally. So any time that anyone is elected, the voters for the losing party are not happy (or afraid of) with what the winner will do. So there's no surprise there. In this case, I think it comes down to a couple of things.

1) Many people don't think Obama has the experience to hold the most powerful job in the world (perhaps that's arguable...but for now I think it's still the US Pres is the most powerful job in the world). In terms of his experience, it's true that he's never held an executive role and he's only been in the US Senate for one term. Will that be a problem? Who knows...but that's one fear.

2) A lot of people simply do not agree with his foreign and domestic agenda and approach. Some of the specific things that people are concerned about:

- Being weak on security issues as he has a drastically different approach to foreign policy than Bush (and some people feel that Bush has been keeping us safe). They also think that if there is some major international incident, Obama won't have any clue what to do and he'll screw it up. (Yes...I know what you're all thinking about Bush right now...I'm just saying...)
- He'll raise taxes, grow government programs, and turn America more into a Socialist/welfare state. In large part, Americans don't look to the government to solve our problems because it's often inefficient and bungles things up. Among many other things, America became what it was though a capitalist approach to things. (I also realize that right now we're reaping some of the painful realities of capitalism gone-wild). People don't want the government taking more of their money and spending it on potentially crappy government programs. As a general rule, we don't like the idea of socialism...and some see him as one who will lean more that way.

I'm sure there's more to it than that, but that's my best effort at a short summary of some of the fears. I'm not trying to say if there is or isn't validity to those fear...just listing what they may be. Perhaps someone who's actually afraid can post a better response.

From my point of view - we don't really know what we'll get from Obama. He's said a lot of great/inspiring/hopeful things, but the truth is that he doesn't have much of a public record in terms of what he'll do. Also, no US President has actually done all that has been discussed/promised while campaigning. Sad as it is, they say what they need to in order to get elected...then reality sets in....or things change. For example, in 2000, Bush made it clear that he was against the idea of nation-building and imposing our will on other nations...then came 9/11 and since then that's all he's done. In my opinion, Obama has promised quite a bit - if you listened to his convention speech 2 months ago he pretty much gave the impression that he'll fix all the problems of America and the world. It's great and inspiring, but also largely unrealistic.

I'm hopeful that we'll see good things...but unfortunately he's coming into a tough situation both in the US and internationally. It certainly will be interesting. Reply to this

10 years ago, November 6th 2008 No: 14 Msg: #53681  
Thanks for the explanation Marc. 😊

Perhaps someone who's actually afraid can post a better response.


Hopefully they will. Even though this thread is a congratulations to Obama, it is always interesting to hear the other side of things.
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10 years ago, November 6th 2008 No: 15 Msg: #53691  
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I'll add a further comment...

I think the afraid people fall into a few different camps - probably with some overlap.

There are those who are afraid based on economic/political philosophy differences. These are the ones who disagree with his plans for taxes, health care, education, foreign policy, etc. This is largely what I discussed above.

There are those who are afraid based on personality, experience, and associations. These are the ones who think he won't have a clue what to do...or think he's a closet radical due to his past associations with various people. These associations include a guy (William Ayers) who was part of a domestic terrorist group in the 60s, his church pastor (whom many see as being an anti-American nut-job), a shady Chicago businessman (Tony Rezko)...and other such things.

There are those who also think he's a closet-Muslim...which doesn't sit well with them considering our current wars with Muslim countries/organizations. I'm not sure how they think this is bad, but religion is a big thing to many and there are some who simply aren't comfortable with the notion of being led by a potential Muslim.

And most sad of all...there are those who are simply racist and are certain that a (half) black man in power spells certain disaster.

I'd like to think the majority of the "afraid" people fall into the first group above...but who knows...
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10 years ago, November 6th 2008 No: 16 Msg: #53692  
Marc, I dont agree.
  • First off George W. Bush WAS fired, I saw the termination papers!! They gave him 2 weeks notice but he refuses to leave until the last hecatares of wilderness are explored for oil and gas, the economy has spiraled further out of control and a couple hundred more soldiers are dead.
  • Second, everyone knows Dubya LOVES sombreros! In the image we see him wearing his favorite with the diamond trim, but his others are equally worn with great pride.
  • Third he calls himself by his Spanish name, Jorge W. Boosh, when visiting countries south of the border. It was a tradition started when Boosh met with Vicente Fox in Guanajuato, Mexico.
  • Fourth if you look close enough at any flag from the USA you can see the Mexican coat of arms imposed over the stars.
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10 years ago, November 6th 2008 No: 17 Msg: #53695  

Many people don't think Obama has the experience to hold the most powerful job in the world .....



Well, all black people, women, native indians and the rest dont have any experience with that job.....


There are those who are afraid based on personality, experience, and associations. These are the ones who think he won't have a clue what to do...or think he's a closet radical due to his past associations with various people. These associations include a guy (William Ayers) who was part of a domestic terrorist group in the 60s, his church pastor (whom many see as being an anti-American nut-job), a shady Chicago businessman (Tony Rezko)...and other such things.

There are those who also think he's a closet-Muslim...which doesn't sit well with them considering our current wars with Muslim countries/organizations. I'm not sure how they think this is bad, but religion is a big thing to many and there are some who simply aren't comfortable with the notion of being led by a potential Muslim.



I have to laugh at this part. It reminds me of the type of gossip my neighbours spout about everybody who is not exactly like they are. :D


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10 years ago, November 6th 2008 No: 18 Msg: #53697  

First off George W. Bush WAS fired, I saw the termination papers!! They gave him 2 weeks notice but he refuses to leave until the last hecatares of wilderness are explored for oil and gas, the economy has spiraled further out of control and a couple hundred more soldiers are dead.
Second, everyone knows Dubya LOVES sombreros! In the image we see him wearing his favorite with the diamond trim, but his others are equally worn with great pride.
Third he calls himself by his Spanish name, Jorge W. Boosh, when visiting countries south of the border. It was a tradition started when Boosh met with Vicente Fox in Guanajuato, Mexico.
Fourth if you look close enough at any flag from the USA you can see the Mexican coat of arms imposed over the stars.



LOL
Well, I agree with all this, whether it is true or not. Call me prejudiced..... :D
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10 years ago, November 6th 2008 No: 19 Msg: #53699  
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That would be pretty smooth if he cruised out of the White House for the last time wearing a huge sombrero like that. Reply to this

10 years ago, November 6th 2008 No: 20 Msg: #53728  
I'm joining in a little late but I'll pitch in my two cents for that they're worth.

I was watching the election out in Seattle, so similar to what Stephen experienced in California, the 'second' the polls closed on the west coast they called the election and everyone started cheering. People were counting down...five...four...three...two.... Police ended up closing off several streets downtown because folks from the two main areas where people were gathering to watch the election began celebrating in the street and there was essentially a huge parade of people walking from both ends of town, waving flags and such. To me, the election was pretty much a done deal once Pennsylvania was projected for Obama, and when Ohio also went blue it was over (so having voted absentee on the west coast, I guarantee my vote hadn't been counted yet, but it's still nice to think that every vote makes a difference).

I'm hopeful that this country will see some changes, but I also hope that the American public is patient. Changes don't occur overnight, even with a new president, and if the populace gets too restless before anything can happen people will start to lose hope and start decrying Obama for all the reasons the McCain campaign thought of during the election. Which isn't what we need.

As to what I think should be top priority? Reestablishing the respect of the world in terms of foreign policy. That's a very broad topic, there will certainly be some point-by-point goals that will be established first, but overall, that's what I'm hoping for. Reversing some of the detrimental environmental policies also, but more broadly it would be nice to be able to proudly travel around as an American without having to constantly defend your position with "Well not all Americans are like that/agree with Bush/hate other cultures/think everyone from the Middle East is a terrorist/etc" I'm sure the people who make and market Canadian flag backpack patches will start to see a decline in business now that Americans no longer feel the need to pretend to be from up north, but in the long run I think that's an acceptable sacrifice.

And Mel you're absolutely right. So much of the propaganda spread during a campaign is 'just like' rumors and gossip and slander usually reserved for high school or nosy old neighbors. The campaign has been inundating the media for two years! I'm so glad it's finally over.
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