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Little White Visa Lies

Want to go with the wind on your travels?? is this the best way around tight visa applications.
13 years ago, July 1st 2008 No: 1 Msg: #40451  
Hey all!

If a country is asking for Proof of Entry (tickets) and exit (tickets) for your travels into there country.. but you havnt decided where/how you wanto exit into the next country... how do you get around this?

Iv read alot about people booking a cheap refundable flight to put on there application and once they have entered the country they refund this!

(I may need to take this option for China later this year, but would like some advice on it first)

Has anyone ever done this?

are there no ways for you to get into trouble for this?

When leaving a country does noone view any paper works that show you've leaving incorectly to how you originaly stated?

Do they care how your leaving?

and other such questions on the subject!

and help, advice, stories or general blabbing is always most thanked!


Mooze =)
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13 years ago, July 1st 2008 No: 2 Msg: #40461  
B Posts: 104
Hey, some countries are worse than others at checking, however I would not suggest you try to get around them.

I was refused check in at Sydney International on a flight to Christchurch (NZ) without confirmation of my exit flight from NZ. This was requested even though I had a RTW ticket that was valid for a year. As I hadn't booked my flight out of New Zealand (like you I was travelling without a real time plan) I had to book a flight on the internet in the airport and then prove it to the check in girls.

It turned out to be an expensive travel mistake!

Sarah :-)

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13 years ago, July 1st 2008 No: 3 Msg: #40499  
Hello Richard 😊

There are ways to get in trouble if the immigration ask to see the proof of exit when you are entering the courty. Many dont but it is possible. Generally if this happens they will deport you on the next available plane. Hopefully soon they will get used to seeing people planning overland travel and change these exit ticket rules.
One thing you can do to minimise the chance of this happening when entering certain countries is to dress as neatly as you can. Tie back long hair if you are a guy and cover tattoos and body piercings. ie. dont give them a a reason to judge you.

A more likely problem is the airline flying you to the country may not want to let you on the flight without having an exit ticket for the country you are going to.

I dont think you will have trouble leaving the country unless you outstayed your visa time. Then there would usually be a fine.

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13 years ago, July 1st 2008 No: 4 Msg: #40500  
Good warning Sarah!

I think the wealthier countries which are more likely to have people trying to immigrate to them for economic reasons are the ones which are more likely to check. Australia, Canada, US, UK, NZ...

Countries like Thailand... rarely check as far as I have heard so far. Reply to this

13 years ago, July 2nd 2008 No: 5 Msg: #40632  
B Posts: 109
yes... also if you are able to prove that you have money somewhere... they might be less likely to think you are holidaying/moving there for illegal work (probably why you get hasseled in australia alot)

but I have seen a lot of blogs where people apply for visas at the border etc... I am sure in places where there a many countries in close approximity this is easier to do... I have read a few blogs were the people buy refundable onward tickets - happens all the time... one I remember was a girl bought one to fiji from Australia Reply to this

13 years ago, July 7th 2008 No: 6 Msg: #41177  
It is standard at the moment for getting a Chinese visa - you have to show proof of tickets and a fully booked itinierary. I am in Thailand right now and have met several people trying to go to China - moslty overland - who have had to get agents to book flights in and out and full itinerary of hotels and transport for inside China. You take all this to the Chinese embassy and they issue your visa. Then you go back to your agent and they will cancel everything - full refund for the tickets etc. but you pay the agent a nice fee for all this of course. I believe it the same system in Hong Kong too right now.
Doesnt seem to be any problem entering China as when you turn up at the border you have the visa in your passport. Leaving shouldnt be any problem as long as you didnt overstay your visa -after all you are leaving anyway, even if not by the same means you orignally stated when applying for the visa. Unless it states on your visa how you will enter and leave (and usually it doesnt) there is no way for the immigration guy to know or check anyway.

Australia is particulalry bad for such restrictions - know one guy (Australian) who was refused to board his flight from Oz to thailand as he did not have an onward or retun ticket and thus would not be permitted entry to Thailand, although in realitly the Thais never enforce this rule.

Other freinds have faked e-tickets or simply bought cheap return tickets (eg for Indonesia which has similar rules) and never used the returns. Never heard of anyone getting caught out doing this, though there is always a small risk I suppose. Reply to this

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