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20th November 2018

Gir
Thanks for the info. Having read your comments about the fees (1400 Rs.per camera?) and now recent TripAdvisor reviews too, I'm having second thoughts about Gir. Do I really want to see lions that badly? Do I really want to be ripped off and possibly not even see a lion? If I don't go to Gir, do I even bother with Gujarat? Decisions, decisions...
From Blog: Diu to Gir
21st November 2018

Gir
It's a hard call, isn't it. We debated long and hard whether to visit Gir for the same reasons, and actually abandoned an earlier plan to visit Gujarat on that basis. The charges are a rip off and getting into the park a ridiculous hassle. But you never have to share a jeep. By putting you on a set route, you avoid seeing too many other jeeps, which is good, but of course you can't then deviate to see something that's off your track. All that said, seeing the male lion was incredible, and one of the 2 best game sightings we've ever had (the other was watching a tigress kill a wild dog in Tadoba). We wouldn't have missed it for the world.
From Blog: Diu to Gir
20th November 2018

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19th November 2018

Lions
Ah, yes. I'd forgotten I was told that 23 lions out of a pride of 26 died within a fortnight sometime in October. Apparently over 180 have died in the past two years. Canine distemper (spread by infected dogs sharing lion kills) is believed to be the cause. For many years, the Gujarati government has resisted advice to move some lions to other parks. Perhaps they'll now do it - before they lose all of them.
19th November 2018

Birding Lodge
Yes please - I think I have the Birding Lodge's website details but confirmation of the contact name and email address would be very helpful. Strange that other places weren't helpful with park entry bookings. My experience at Ranthambore and Bandhavgarh has been that they were only too happy to do it all for you (for a fee of course). Must be something to do with the bureaucracy!
From Blog: Diu to Gir
20th November 2018

Gir Birding Lodge contact.
His name is Iqbal Ahmed - email ia@asianadventures.in, website www.asianadventures.net. We had to send him scans of our passports, and pay half up front so he had the money to pay the permits. Even then, they'd put the price up by the time we arrived so we had to pay an extra 800 or 1000 rupees each drive on the spot. Plus 1400 rupees per camera per day!
From Blog: Diu to Gir
19th November 2018

Hooray!
Lots of super bird shots. Lions, however, are what you came to see - and see them you did, eventually. I thought they would be easier to spot. They'd better put in an appearance when I get to Gir - perhaps I'll add an extra day as a buffer in case they're shy on my first safari or two!
19th November 2018

Lions
Safaris are always a matter of luck. We had one great drive and two where we saw very little, and that's pretty standard I think. I read that quite a lot of the Gir lions died recently from some mystery disease
19th November 2018

Oh dear!
There I was thinking that Gir would somehow be less commercialised than awful, overcrowded Ranthambore. Just shows how wrong one can be, eh? Never mind, you did at least get to see some deer and birds! (BTW: I'm no great shakes at bird identification, but I think your pictures captioned 'Fine plumage' and 'Buzzard' are both of the Glossy Ibis.)
From Blog: Diu to Gir
19th November 2018

Birds
Thanks for the bird identification. As you'll have gathered we're not too good on birds, and invariably forget what the guide told us! Gir is bureaucracy gone mad, but it's worth it when you finally get there. And the guy that promotes the Birding Lodge was the one and only person willing and able to organise the safaris for us. I can send you his details if you like
From Blog: Diu to Gir
15th November 2018

Fascinating...
I'm referring to the remnants of Portuguese colonisation - not the open defecation rates!
From Blog: Diu
15th November 2018

I was looking forward to Diu...
...until I read your observations about the rubbish. It's still a problem throughout the country of course but it does seem particularly bad here. Maybe they'll clear it up after Diwali (or maybe not!).
From Blog: Driving to Diu
16th November 2018

Diu
We have really enjoyed Diu, but if we'd known how dirty the beach is we'd have allowed less time. The crowds are partly down to it being Diwali, though I think Diu gets a lot of Gujarati visitors as they can drink alcohol! I don't know if there are any decent hotels in the old town, but I'd be tempted to stay there if I came again. We're looking forward to going to the bird sanctuary this morning before we head off to Gir
From Blog: Driving to Diu
15th November 2018

Bhavnagar sounds like one to miss!
The journey seems fascinating but, for you to mention the smell in Bhavnagar, it must have been worse than you've experienced elsewhere on your journeys around India. Oh, I've been trying to think of the name of that fruit you bought. Was it a chikoo (sapodilla) perhaps - sweet, pear-like taste, two or three black seeds in the middle? Or, less likely, a bael - lots of seeds, sticky flesh, marmalade-like aftertaste?
16th November 2018

Chikoos
Yes, a chikoo was my best bet after looking on the internet, though I'm still not 100% sure. The smell by the flamingos in Bhavnagar was genuinely the worst we've ever encountered. The ground had been turned over by a digger and I think - linking back to the most recent post - that it was an area that had been used heavily for open defecation in the past. Ugh!!
14th November 2018

Temples and tombs
Ahmedabad seems to have lots of these. Fortunately, I find them interesting and, together with the people in and around them, great subjects for photography. Wildlife too, eh? Right up my street!
14th November 2018

'Good health'...
...he says, raising a glass - for which a liquor permit isn't required in Welwyn Garden City! Alas, none of us is getting any younger, so we have to expect the hospital visits. Like you, my wife and I have had our share of those in recent times - I even wrote a blog in 2013 about one of mine ('Britain’s health service observed')! I usually try to keep my India trips to a month, although one or two have been six weeks - it's a long way to go and there's always too much to see, isn't there? My wife hasn't accompanied me for some years, so I'm a free spirit when I'm there - oops, did I mention spirit? I trust you'll enjoy the rest of your tour as much as I'm enjoying reading about it.
From Blog: Ahmedabad
13th November 2018

I don't usually enjoy museums
I've been to Baroda - but only for 20 minutes, when my train stopped there at three o'clock in the morning. Friends came specially, even in the dead of night, to meet me on the station platform! It sounds like an interesting place and, despite my dislike for even the world's finest museums, I'll make a point of visiting the Baroda Museum just to see those stuffed animals!
From Blog: Vadodara
12th November 2018

Great itinerary
Looks like I'm in for some good reading! I'll have to look up Gondal as that doesn't currently figure on my list. I'll be starting my tour in Udaipur (my most favourite place in the whole of India), then Mt Abu (where a friend has two small hotels favoured by Gujaratis on boozy weekends), then to Ahmedabad and onwards, so in the opposite direction to you. Can't wait for more of your tips!
From Blog: Ahmedabad
13th November 2018

Gujarat itinerary
We thought we'd do the trip the other way round so we could enjoy a beer or two at the end of the holiday! Our travel insurance only covers us for 4 weeks, so we couldn't fit in quite as many places as you, especially as we wanted some rest at the end. We've had a bad year medically - three major operations for my husband and 2 eye ops for me - so a bit of recuperation felt in order. In fact, it's been nothing short of a miracle that we've managed to fit both holidays in this year. I hope your wife's health improves. 2 days in and around Ahmedabad felt about right, and likewise for Vadodora. We were disappointed not to be able to visit the little known railway museum there, but it only opens for a few hours each day and by the time I'd tracked it down it was closed. Bhavnagar is just a stopping point on the way to Diu.
From Blog: Ahmedabad
12th November 2018

Vadodara
Abandoned in the 1600s and recovered from the forest in the 19th Century...what an interesting place.
From Blog: Champaner
13th November 2018

Champaner
Yes, Champaner was amazing and a really interesting place to visit. We love historic sites, and the architecture and detail in the carvings was just up our street
From Blog: Champaner
9th November 2018

I'm avidly reading...
...all your observations about Gujarat as, until recently, I was in the throes of planning my own tour there for next year. It's a state I haven't visited, but I have Gujarati friends living in Savarkundla (which seems to be known only for weighing machines and fireworks made by stuffing the walnut-like fruit of the Ingoriya tree with high explosives!) and Diu. While my trip has had to be postponed until 2020 due to my wife's ill health, your blog has already resulted in the House of MG being taken off the llst of places to stay. I might still visit it for the thali though! So, your health permitting (get well soon), where to next? My own list includes Nal Sarovar, Patan, Modhera, Rann of Kutch and villages, Bhuj, Mandvi, Jamnagar, Dwarka, Porbanda, Somnath, Diu, Sasangir, Junagadh, Bhavnagar, Velvadar, Vadodara and Dakor - so far. I wonder if six weeks will be enough! :)
From Blog: Ahmedabad
11th November 2018

I'm much better thanks - only a minor bout of travellers tummy. The House of MG gave us an internal room after we complained about the noise, which was much better, and the location is excellent. But the cafe (as opposed to the rooftop evening thali) is certainly slow. We go to Vadodara today, and then Bhavnagar (just as a staging point), Diu, Gir, Gondal, Little Rann of Kutch, Mount Abu and then up into Rajasthan for some rest and nice hotels at the end - Poshina and Dungarpur are both heritage hotels in the countryside, then ending up in Udaipur before flying back to Mumbai.
From Blog: Ahmedabad
7th November 2018

Welcome back!
I've enjoyed Mumbai on several occasions but, while I've often visited the Taj Mahal Palace for meals and drinks. I save myself a small fortune by staying at the Suba Palace just a block away. I'm sure it's wonderful to stay at the Taj - lucky you. However, I do have to say that, with the addition of a wire net, your photo captioned 'Taj Mahal Palace Hotel interior 1' might easily be an up-market Wormwood Scrubs! : ) Do make time to visit the slums at Dharavi - it will open your eyes to another world (I recommend Reality Tours as profits go towards educational projects there). I look forward to reading more of your seventh India adventure.

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