Thanks for commenting I'm glad you have taken the opportunity to set the record straight from your point of view.
I'm challenging two of the conclusions I heard you share on the walk. One is that Dr. Kagawa said Japan would not go to war against the U. S. and the other is that he was an apologist for Japan during the war.
I can read the Kagawa quotes in your book reported in the Hilo press in 1935 to mean something different if the reporter even slightly misconstrued what was actually said.
That's why I said I'd need more information before I could make a meaningful judgment on the accuracy of your observations and opinions.
The Kagawa about whom I read in several books was not one to be an apologist (one who supports a controversial opinion) but one to apologize (bear the burden of the failures of his people). He could hope that the U. S. and Japan avoid war and be understood by those who do not know him as saying he did not think there would be war.
We can agree to disagree since it would take a lot to sort out the historical record.
About Dr. Kagawa I don't remember making disparaging comments about Dr. Kagawa on our walking tour of the trees. My normal comment is that he visited here to say that Japan would never go to war with the United States. History proved him wrong. I always mention that it was amazing that a man who was blind in one eye and could not see out of the other made such a tour. Neither of these comments can be considered disparaging. For all of Dr. Kagawa's pacifist intentions, he was ultimately wrong about what he believed the future would bring between our countries. It's too bad that he was wrong. Many lives would have been saved. I just wanted to make clear that I would never disparage Dr. Kagawa for his valiant efforts, and his honor by being one of the Banyan Tree planters. Thanks
Audrey Southerland I loved meeting Audrey and visiting at her house. As Mary Metts said she made usask "What have I done with my life?". I also loved exploring Audrey's rocks and tide pools in her front yard. Great Fun!!
I had a picture in my mind of Kmehmeha and his warriors forcing the other warriors off of the cliff, but didn't know where that came from. You supplied the answer for me. Thanks
Polynesian Cultural Center` Sounds like you both enjoyed this visit. I thought about going but we opted for shopping at Ala Moana center where we had lunch and then swimming in the Pacific at Waikiki. We couldn't go home without swimming at Waikiki! It was a relaxing day for us. I'm glad you liked the presentations at the Polynesian Cultural Center.
A surprise The surprise for me was to see that the Memorial (the white curved looking structure) was exactly on top of the actual sunken USS Arizona. When we got out to it I was also surprised that we could actually see parts of the ship both above and below the water. What a great way to memorialize the men who died and are entombed there! I was impressed.
hula lesson I loved our first hula lesson, it was great fun and Susan was a good instructor. She made it relatively easy to follow her movements and words at the same time. I wanted to practice it one more time.
the Hukilau Didn't you love imagining the Hukilaju? Susan is such a good storyteller. I could see the people on the beach and imagine their excitement, jumping into the water and getting a good catch while socializing with their friends.
don't ya hate it when that happens? Forgetting to charge your camera with the new wall plug ? ACH! What a disappointment at Waimea Canyon! I can say that I've had some mishap with my camera at various times and then had to sit through the event going on, and not be able to take pictures. How frustrating!! So you're not alone.
J-walking ticker The first time I got a J-walking ticket, I was walking across the street in front of the Book store at Univ Of Wash in Seattle. (many years ago, now) When the policeman wrote me up in his ticket book, I said "You've GOT to be kidding. I didn't even know there was such a thing as J-walking tickets." Probably not the best response - I was new to Seattle-a college student-what did I know? He calmly finished writing my ticket and just handed it to me, and said "Now you know". So I paid the fine, and got a lot of mileage out of my story. Was I careful about J-walking again? You bet! careful to look out for policemen.
I was wondering what the "big deal" was when I heard all the exclamations about crossing the highway from the Maui Beach Hotel to the shopping center. Your description of the crossing solves my wonderings. We crossed that corner later in the evening after dinner when the traffic was less, but I do remember thinking "Yes, this is a dangerous corner for pedestrians". I also liked your description of Kamehameaha"'s strategy and battles with the Maui-ians (if there is such a word). Your pictures and description of the "peace" Garden were great too. It's a good thing I have your Tblog to fill in all the gaps for me .
As usual As usual, Jerry, you filled in some knowledge that I had heard but not taken down in my notes. Like how the lava tube is formed and facts about the climate.
photo of Honolulu I forgot to say I love your photo of Honolulu from the air - clearly showing punchbowl and all the surroundings. The clouds are artfully arranged too! What a shot!
Who wouda thought? A simple innocent typo could be interpreted as inappropriate? So much for my typing skills. Idid notice the typo but there was no chance to "edit" my comment. I'll have to be more vigilant to proof read my comments. - I like your helicopter/volcano pictures. Wasn't it a great ride? Did your version of our motley group come out? Hope so.
learned something I learned something new from your blog. I didn't know the click on this picture to see it larger feature. I must have not read all the directions at some point
Yea! You made it! Hey Jerry, I see you figured it out. I hope my "instructions" helped.I'm looking forward to future entrys. And we can leave lots of comments for each other . Your first entry looks good to me. Marty
Approaching our fiftieth wedding anniversary, my wife and I decided to celebrate by visiting Hawai'i. We have never splurged like this during our married life. But it seemed like a good idea when we made the decision. And we are very glad we went.
Our daughter bought us a digital camera a year ago. On this trip it became both a blessing and a curse. We will try to pick out the pictures that share the blessings. The "curse" side will not make the cut for you, though they will remain in our computer just in case.
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I'm glad you have taken the opportunity to set the record straight from your point of view. I'm challenging two of the conclusions I heard you share on the walk. One is that Dr. Kagawa said Japan would not go to war against the U. S. and the other is that he was an apologist for Japan during the war. I can read the Kagawa quotes in your book reported in the Hilo press in 1935 to mean something different if the reporter even slightly misconstrued what was actually said. That's why I said I'd need more information before I could make a meaningful judgment on the accuracy of your observations and opinions. The Kagawa about whom I read in several books was not one to be an apologist (one who supports a controversial opinion) but one to apologize (bear the burden of the failures of his people). He could hope that the U. S. and Japan avoid war and be understood by those who do not know him as saying he did not think there would be war. We can agree to disagree since it would take a lot to sort out the historical record.