A visa officer is saying he will blacklist me - for some weird reason.? Can he really do that?
Hi,
I am and Indian Passport holder working in Ireland . I had applied for tourist visa to italian embassy My visa got approved. But there was a miscommunication on the date and time to collect the passport. The visa officer insists he told me to come during a certain time on a particular day but trust me I heard it otherwise. When i took leave from work and went there, he was angry at me saying that I came at a different time - outside the embassy hours. I told that I came as per what you said on the phone. He was very harsh and gave me the passport with a big warning that he will not give me visa next time I apply to Italy and i will be blacklisted!!! . I don't understand. I am planning to visit other schengen countries also. If he does what he said, won't I ever get a schengen visa??
Did anyone had similar experiences?? What bad will come to me in the worst case? Can anyone advise whether this is a big problem and what should I do to rectify it, if there is a way.
Thanks a lot,
andspeed
Reply to this Btw, just to mention that I did got the visa stamped (when he gave me back the passport). His warnings to me were meant for the next time !
Reply to this An unfortunate story, but doubt that this blacklisting would happen, but you never know. However, if you do want a Shengen visa in advance, you apply to the country where you will spend most of your time, thus if you plan your trip correctly, you don't need to go to the Italian Embassy but can go to one of the others (i.e Spain, France, Germany) instead.
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Thanks for the reply. So you mean to say I might have problem because of this only if I go to the Italian embassy again ( I am really not going to them again!). What I don't want is a whole Schengen blacklist or a bad entry in the SIS (Schengen Information System) database....
Can someone with consulate experience shed some light on this.. I am really getting paranoid about future schengen visits..😞
Reply to this He did say you would be "blacklisted" if you apply to Italy, rather than for a Schengen. I can understand your concerns, because if that happened to me, I'd be considering all the possible consequences.
Hopefully someone else will have more experience or knowledge in this area.
Reply to this Thanks. I understand. I am contemplating talking to that officer again to sort this out.
Reply to this Hello Andspeed 😊
Not everybody who works in customer service is suitable for it. Seems to me that this embassy person is one of them.
I doubt he can or would blacklist your for this. I think, he is an example of those who least deserve respect, but demand it more.
I would try to ignore what happened, because of the risk that this guy is like he is, because this is what passes for normal behaviour where he works.
I would try to go to a different consulate next time, but chances are if you cant, and go to the same one you might be served by a different person, so it wont matter. And, if the working environment is in any way decent there, this guy might not even be working there by the time you go back. You wont be the first who has had problems with him.
I am contemplating talking to that officer again to sort this out.
Id let sleeping dogs lie, and stay away from him. If you are getting another visa and have to encounter him, just make sure you obey his nit picking rules, to keep him quiet while you have to tolerate him at all.
Mel
Reply to this Hello Mell,
Thank you for responding. Its been reassuring. Yeah I am having second thoughts about waking up the demon.I hope he was having a rough day at office and I was an unfortunate victim.
I will be visiting another Schengen country in about 2 to 3 months and will be vistiting a different schengen consulate for the visa. So will keep the forum posted on what happens...
Thanks guys,
Andspeed
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I agree with the others above that I doubt he will actually do anything. It sounds like he was having a bad day and blowing off some steam. I think he wanted to worry you and it seems he has accomplished his task. I think if he were going to do it he would have done something to you this time.
I'd walk away and let it pass.
Enjoy your trip.
Reply to this It sounds a lot like an empty threat to me. You can't blacklist somebody for picking up their papers too late. He would have to come up with a pretty good reason for blacklisting anybody, he would have to prove you are a criminal or a terrorist or something else rather radical and it seems that would be hard to do. Basically he would have to lie and that could get him into a lot of trouble, because the lie would be revealed as such quite easily. Had he been from some obscure highly corrupted country he might have been able to blacklist somebody (more like blackmail), but this is Europe, no way he would get away with it.
So don't worry, leave it be, he is just another asshole pretending to be more then he is. You got your visa, there was a reason for this, if he really had had the capacity to blacklist you or even the ability to deny you a visa he would have done it then and there. The fact that he gave you the visa shows that he doesn't have that authority so he did the next best thing which was frighten you.
If you somehow end up with this guy again and he tries this trick again, ask to see his superior and also send a letter of complaint about him or do it directly to his superior. He shouldn't be working there if he gets his kicks out of bullying people, but maybe nobody has dared to complain yet as they think they will get in trouble.
Reply to this Thanks Ralf. Yes I realize that his main aim was to intimidate me and he achieved that with perfection! But he could do that only for a brief amount of time before the trip.Thanks to everyone on this forum who made me realize this. I am just back from Rome and I had completely forgotten about this whole stupid thing. Once again thanks guys for all the responses. This is a really helpful forum!
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Yes, Sure I did 😊 Rome is a wonderful place ( esp because I am fascinated by history). And it is romantic too! . Three days was too short for the trip though..
Reply to this If you somehow end up with this guy again and he tries this trick again, ask to see his superior and also send a letter of complaint about him or do it directly to his superior. He shouldn't be working there if he gets his kicks out of bullying people, but maybe nobody has dared to complain yet as they think they will get in trouble.
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Just to let all of you guys know - I recently applied for Schengen Visa at the French Consulate in Dublin and my visa was approved. So I am definitely not on any Schengen blacklist..:D
Reply to this Well good for you mine is actually on the bad side, in 2010 i guess i was blacklisted in SIS (Shengen Information System), for arriving at the border approximately 2 hours late from a conference in Prague. Now in late 2011 i figured the reason why i was asked for $200 by the officers which i never had, before i was taking inside for finger printing, i was so dumb not to know about the SIS thingy. Now i need your help to know 2 things
1. How long will your name be in the SIS database before erasing it
2. Is there any legal term to follow to see that my name is erased since it was just a matter of time and date.
3. Does ireland care a bit about the SIS
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