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Im so nervous!is South America-Dangerous?

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Desperatly need some tips on what precautions to take, while backpacking in south America.
17 years ago, December 4th 2006 No: 1 Msg: #8927  
Hi!
I am a 19 years old girl from Norway going on my very first backpacking trip. I am travelig with my boyfriend and we will be gone for about 6 months. I am really nervous and I want to know If anyone out there can Tell me something about safety in these areas. Which countries are the safest, andwhivh are dangerous, What precautions to take and so on.
I am really nervous and dont feel prepeared at all. Please try and give me some pointers. I would really appreciate it.

Monica Reply to this

17 years ago, December 4th 2006 No: 2 Msg: #8935  
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I think my suggestions pertain to safety:

If taking local transportation (non-tourist class), don't keep valuables in visible view - ie. don't keep your camera around your neck, keep your moneybelt underneath clothes (not above). Be careful with your ipod or any electronics, as if you fall asleep with them on - they might be snatched before you wake up.

don't leave valuables around in your hotel room, Try to have a backpack with lockable zippers (vs. a drawstring toploading backpack).

Avoid being trying to get off the beaten track too much (though this depends how confident you are and what you really want to see. I'm sure this statement will be contradicted by many). It has been known that people in La Paz attempting to get a better view of the city wandered out into the outlying areas and got mugged.

Try to keep your money spread around (keep some in your shoe, etc) so that if you get mugged, its not a big deal.

Avoid carrying a wallet around with your cards. I found that keeping a small change purse with less than $20 in it was helpful. If you do get mugged, you can give them that and not be that worse off.

Walk with confidence and keep your eyes straight forward rather than nervously looking around. If you look uncertain, you are an easy target for vendors and other people who want your attention.

Keep photocopies of your passport and other important documents online and on you so that if things get stolen, its easier to get a new passport.

It might be easier if you keep a smaller backpack that will be allowed onto the bus rather than stored below or above. If its too big, you have to check it and its hard to keep an eye on it especially when the bus stops every five minutes and people get on and off.

It looks dorky, but keep your backpack in front of you (wearing the straps on the front) especially in crowds so that you can tell if someone's trying to get into your bag).

Carry small keyrings, safety pins or mini-com locks to lock up your daybag. While this won't prevent a professional thief, this does deter a petty thief who's trying to get into your bag without you noticing.

Bag slashing is something that I've heard about (but never happened to me nor my friends). Always carry a shoulder bag that has sturdier straps (so its not as easy to slash) and never carry anything valuable in it that could get emptied if your bag was slashed.

Bottom line: don't bring anything that you would be incredibly sad if it got stolen (this even pertains to a watch or jewellry). Things that we carry around (that we take for granted) can easily equal a farmer's half-year salary.
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17 years ago, December 5th 2006 No: 3 Msg: #8948  
Thank you so much. These advises will surely come in handy. I just have a fex more questions, if you'll be so kind and answer them to:

By slashing, do you mean cut open?

Have you ever been mugged? Where? What happens when they mug you, is there a chance that they act violent?

Do you think that I should take extra precautions considering the fact that I am a girl? (wedding ring etc?)

have you travveled a lot around this area? Have you aver come across anything violent or life-threatening?

Thank you once again,

Monica
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17 years ago, December 5th 2006 No: 4 Msg: #8955  
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I spent three months in Peru living in a small town in the highlands and I also did the southern backpacking circuit in Peru and part of Bolivia to La Paz and the Salar de Uyuni (and also backpacked around India by myself).

by slashing, your bag straps can be cut so that your bag falls off you or bag slashing can mean that they will slash the bottom of the bag/backpack so your contents fall to the ground.

I have never been mugged but I have heard plenty of stories.

As for the fact that you're a girl, wearing a wedding ring might help. I didn't find that men would leer at me especially just because I was a female. I travelled briefly in Bolivia with another female (travellers I met along the way) and I did travel by myself. I did get a lot of old ladies who would try to warn me in castellano (spanish) to be careful of my bags because there were a lot of pickpockets around.

for general safety, if you are paranoid about your belongings, you might consider investing in a pacsafe which is basically metal netting that goes around your whole bag. Not a lot of people have them, and it is heavy to carry around but it does give you peace of mind. Its also great for locking up your bag to your bed at your shady-ish hostel that you're staying at.
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If you don't want to carry something heavy like that around, check around a local hardware store for a long metal chain which you can use to lock your bag to the seat or overhead compartment so it doesn't walk off without you.

If you're still worried about specific violence or dangers, I would recommend checking out your government's travel advisory. For another perspective, I would recommend checking out Canada's government website and scroll down for the specific country. they're pretty good for letting you know about specific places and warnings pertaining to it :
http://www.voyage.gc.ca/consular_home-en.asp Reply to this

17 years ago, December 5th 2006 No: 5 Msg: #8958  
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I've found South America to be very safe, if you travel with some common sense. Lauralee had some good suggestions.

Some of my advise for South American cities:
-- always appear to know where you are going. don't walk around showing your map or guide book in any big cities. if you need to check a map, walk into a store front.
-- be very careful with people who appear to be cops. don't let them force you into an unmarked car. this has happened at some La Paz bus stations (as well as elsewhere).
-- try to be especially careful near notorious border crossings. it is very helpful to take a bus service that helps with border formalities. otherwise, you risk being dropped off in a scummy border town and having scam artists prey on your confusion. the main ecuador-peru border crossing is an example of a bad border for backpackers--I've heard of countless taxi scams there (you get in a taxi to go to the border post and they drop you off in some remote walled-compound with people with guns and clubs and demand all of your money so they can protect you)
-- be careful walking around alone at night in some cities.
-- on long bus rides, always carry plenty of food, water and warm clothes (if necessary)

I've had no trouble in remote parts of Bolivia, Peru, Ecuador, Chile and Argentina. In my opinion, the cities (or anywhere tourists especially congregate) are where you should be cautious.

Relax, and have fun!

poz

PS -- check out my most recent blog posts for pictures of the Galapagos, the central Andes, the Amazon Basin, and Patagonia! Reply to this

17 years ago, December 6th 2006 No: 6 Msg: #8965  
Thanks a lot for tour answers, I feel a little less nervous after reading them.
I hope that the trip will be successful, im sure it will. After a while I will probably calm down a bit, when I get used to the backpacking lifesstyle,
Thanka alot,

Monica Reply to this

17 years ago, December 7th 2006 No: 7 Msg: #8991  
I just wanted to add a general warning from my 4 years of experience in Brazil.

Use this key warning :DON'T TRUST ANYONE i know it's a bit harsh but i think this rule will keep u safe everywhere in south america.
under this rule:

1. Don't show off- meaning wear simple cloths preferably light cloths. Don't carry with you ANY expensive electronics (ipod camera watch etc.) especially by night unless you are
in a group. Bags attracts too much attention- carry your staff to the beach (or for travel around the city) in a plastic bag or small simple bag.
2. Don't carry money/credit cards/traveller checks on you everywhere you go. Take only enough money for you to spend in one day (30 Euro is enough).
Don't use traveller checks, the commission on cashing them is way too high and the places to cash them are very few. Take a credit card -you can find many ATM's almost everywhere
Use the HSBC ATM's they give the best rates at least in brazil (use the ones inside the Banks cause they won't charge you extra commission and they are safer)
3. Don't walk on your own. walk always with someone. if you are getting robbed don't argue, don't try to run away, just give them everything they want, the robbers get violent very easily. It doesn't worth getting hurt for some money.
4. Be very careful from the policemen especially in Rio. There are many corrupt policemen in Brazil and they have the tendency to plant drugs while searching (usually near clubbing zones). keep your eyes open while you are being searched and this is another good reason for not carrying too much staff with you. DO NOT TRY TO BRIBE THE POLICEMAN unless he says something that imply to that (like i have many problems, i need some help etc.). If you have decided to solve the problem with bribe, 100 R$ is enough to satisfy them.
5. At the beach don't let anyone to watch your staff (if you care for it) unless you leave them with someone you trust (another tourist). At the summer there are many teenagers gangs that wash the beach running from one side to the other, grabbing everything visible and valuable (mostly handbags and cameras), if you see people start running, grab your things and run away. They can be violent too. It is called in Portuguese RASTAO so if you hear people on the beach screaming this word start running. I saw this twice in Rio and in Salvador de Bahia. I'll say it again DON'T CARRY VALUABLE STAFF WITH YOU learn from the brazilians, they go to the beach only with sweaming suit and plastic bag with tanning cream and towel and small money. if you wish to take pictures do it in one day together with your friends so you won't need to carry your cam with you everywhere.
6. Beware from all the salesmen at the beach, some of then have the tendency to take your belongings while showing you their merchandise, they works in two or more.

I know that all these warnings might scare you so i want to say that you shouldn't be. You can enjoy your vacation a lot if you will be careful. Brazil is amazing and the people are very friendly, it's the poverty that make some of them violent. If you wil take the right precautions and try to behave like them the worse thing that may happend is that you will lose some small amount of money. I was mugged 5 times never got hurt and it was always small money or really simple cellphone.

Enjoy your trip,

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17 years ago, December 9th 2006 No: 8 Msg: #9046  
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Gringuito preocupate de no usar ropas muy nuevas: especialmente zapatos caros o mochilas muy caras. mochilas y zapatos son los elementos que más llaman la atención de asaltantes en lo que refiere a ropa, por otro lado no muestre relojes ni cámaras. usa zapatillas baratas brasileñas o mejor aún hawaianas. PERO NO SEAS PARANOICO AMIGO! Reply to this

17 years ago, December 26th 2006 No: 9 Msg: #9457  
Hello!!
Let me tell you things about South America, specially Brazil, because I live here!!
Of course there are good people here, but you always have to be careful!Specially when people notice that you are a foreigner and propably has Euros and Dollars!
There´s a lot of speculation about criminality here, specially Sao Paulo and Rio, but if you are cautelous, the chances of you being robbed here, are the same of you being a victim of a terrorist attack everywhere else in the world.
So what I tell you : try to do not show so much that you are a tourist here.There will be nice people trying to help you, and of course, bad people trying to help you.I think that in Brazilian Northeast (Bahia,Maranhao) is more safe, because they are used to receive turists every year, and their economy depends on that. If you plan to come to Sao Paulo, the only thing nice here are the restaurants and night clubs.
My second opinion: the most safe countries in South America are Argentina (Buenos Aires, nice city), Uruguay and Chile.
And my last opinion is: avoid to travel alone.
Hope I helped you!
Anything else you may ask, feel free to it!
Cheers!
Sarkis Reply to this

17 years ago, January 12th 2007 No: 10 Msg: #9820  
Chile, Argentina, Uruguay... are quite safe to walk around during the day... there are always dangerous areas e.g some streets in la boca, argentina but ask around for local knoweldge.

get used to only carrying loose cash leave everything locked in your hostel and check your key if you have one at reception...oh and a photocopy of ur passport. thats what i do anyway.

there will be times when you are travelling between places and you have all your gear with you. try to minimise these times...go straight to your hostel transport location by direct route...cabs are great who cares about price they are cheap as normally... save public transport for times when you 1. absoultly have to and 2. don´t have anything you care about losing on you.

don´t let me freak you out tho you will suss it out your self afer a day or so in each place... but you should never totally relax. Reply to this

17 years ago, January 13th 2007 No: 11 Msg: #9831  
Ok, I have to say, there is no need to fear for your safety in South America. Don't forget that where most travellers come from (North America, Europe, etc.) crime is also a problem. I have been travelling for almost three months through Ecuador, Peru, Bolivia, and Argentina, and have always felt safe, even in the bigger cities after dark. I was also very nervous before I left on my trip, but once I got here, I realized that it is just like anywhere else. I have never used a money belt and I use public transportation after dark. Maybe I have just been lucky, as I have heard about a few attempted muggings, but all I can say is, be alert and follow your instinct. If you don't feel comfortable in a situation then leave it. Otherwise, don't worry at all and have a great trip!
P.S. the more spanish you know the more comfortable/confident you will be. Reply to this

17 years ago, January 23rd 2007 No: 12 Msg: #10139  
Well... DON'T TRUST ANYONE is very tragic and exagereted. Just makes me laugh!
I don't know how is the whole South America but you can trust Brazilian people.
I traveled most part of Europe and the USA ...so? I've been robbed in New York, Rome and Paris!!!
Never in Brazil!
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17 years ago, January 25th 2007 No: 13 Msg: #10203  
Wow,

"Dont trust any brazilian" is, to say the least, one of the most racists quotes I've seen in any travel forun so far!

To feel safe? Use ur common sense, ur intuition, whatever u believe will work, but do never listen to anyone when they say such a dumb thing! Reply to this

14 years ago, February 12th 2010 No: 14 Msg: #103495  
HELLO APPLEFISH. SORRY FOR CAPS, BUT ONLY CAPS ARE WORKING ( YEH IT SUCKS )

I AM FROM BRASIL AND LIVE HERE, RIO DE JANEIRO.
IT IS KNOWN FOR BEING ONE OF THE WORLD'S MOST DANGEROUS CITIES.
DON'T GO THAT WAY. IT'S REALLY NOT TRUE.

ALL THE SHOOTING YOU HEAR ON TV, ALL THE DEAD PEOPLE - THAT HAPPENS IN THE FAVELAS.
THERE IS REALLY NOT A PROBLEM IN THE CITY. PEOPLE ARE NICE, ALWAYS LAUGHING AND ALWAYS ENJOYING THE GOOD WEATHER AND THE SOUTH AMERICAN LIFE 😊

OF COURSE, YOU WILL HAVE TO BE CAREFUL. WHEN YOU GO OUT, JUST TAKE SHORTS, A TSHIRT AND DON'T ACT LIKE A "SHOW-OFF". KEEP AS LESS "SPOTED", IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN, TRY NOT TO DRAW TOO MUCH ATTENTION TOWARDS YOURSELF. JUST ACT NORMAL.

I THINK YOUR TOO WORRIED. IF YOU GET ROBBED ( I THINK YOU KNOW THIS SINCE YOUR 5 ) JUST GIVE AWAY WHAT YOU HAVE. LOTS OF ARMS DEALS IN RIO, SO ANY ROBBER COULD HAVE A GUN.

IM SURE YOU WILL ENJOY SOUTH AMERICA, GO BACK TO EUROPE AND SAY : "WOW, I WANNA GO BACK THERE" IT'S SO MUCH MORE "ALIVE", WITH ENERMY. AND NOT THIS CONSTANT EUROPEAN BAD MOOD". Reply to this

14 years ago, February 13th 2010 No: 15 Msg: #103519  
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The original post was made in 2006. Reply to this

14 years ago, February 13th 2010 No: 16 Msg: #103534  
IT CAN ALWAYS BE A TIP FOR SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T WANT TO OPEN UP A NEW TOPIC. Reply to this

14 years ago, February 17th 2010 No: 17 Msg: #104014  
You know, efllas, i'm so sick of it!!!
YES... South America is too much dangerous. Stay at your homes everybody! Reply to this

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