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Egypt- Is it safe to travel??

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3 years ago, January 1st 2011 No: 1 Msg: #125662  
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I was wondering weather Egypt is a safe country to travel?
i would LOVE to go there. However, as i\'m only 20, and my partner is 23, i feel its not a very safe place as its near Iraq and ive been told its very dangerous..
We would take tours, but still don\'t know if its safe to go to.
I really love stuff about the ferrohs and stuff and the pyramids, but im a bit scared to go.

Any advice? Reply to this

3 years ago, January 1st 2011 No: 2 Msg: #125667  
Hello Tammy and welcome to the Forum!

Before I start, have a look at the Australian Government's travel advice for Egypt. I do believe that the Australian Government website does overstate dangers of places somewhat, they still rate Egypt relatively low in the danger stakes, which should reassure you about the safety of Egypt.

The biggest problem you will face in Egypt is the road conditions, and it is this that is most common danger to anyone travelling there as evidenced by some bad accidents there in recent times. You will find the hawkers trying to sell you items such as perfumes and felucca rides will cause you far more grief than anything else in the country.

I can say with a extremely large degree of certainty that you will not face any dangers from Iraq in Egypt. I was in Syria a couple of years ago, and there was no threat from Iraq despite it sharing a border, and Egypt is much further away. I spent four weeks in Egypt in 2002, and a few bloggers are there at the moment (see Egypt Travel Blogs, and none of them seem to be under any threat, well apart from a few tummy troubles caused by the "Pharaoh's Revenge" or "Mummy's Curse"

My advice is to listen to people who have visited Egypt or who are currently travelling there, as these are your best advisors of a destination, far more than well meaning friends or family whose only exposure to a place is via the news. Reply to this

3 years ago, January 1st 2011 No: 3 Msg: #125671  
Well, if you look at the news now, you will find info on the bombing in Alexendria killing 20 people. This is a sad story, but it is what you call a clear target sadly.

I would not postpone any plan to travel to Egypt because of this. Just make sure you don't get too close to places which could be too easily considered as targets.

I'm back in Egypt in February and March, no plan to change any of this! Reply to this

3 years ago, January 1st 2011 No: 4 Msg: #125672  
Yes, it is a very sad situation, but I wouldn't be changing any Egypt travel plans on the basis of this incident. There has been simmering tensions between the Coptic Christians and Muslims for some time in Egypt, but this tension at present is not resulting in foreigners being a target. Reply to this

3 years ago, January 2nd 2011 No: 5 Msg: #125682  
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Thanks for your replies.

Yes, the travel camel, i look at this website all the time. It says High degree of caution, and i wouldn't go to any country if it was at that.. and they say no not travel to sinai.. not sure were that is..ive heard cairo??.. but if we went to egypt it would be for 2-3 days maybe.. and we'd wanna see king tuts tomb.. and all the pyramids..

I really want to go, but sadly, i dont really wanna go somewere thats full of terrorism.. like i wouldnt go to the USA around sept 11.. and unfortionatly egypt is right near iraq.. so im not sure if there is much terrorism in egypt..

Ive also been told as im an australian blonde haired girl.. i may be in strif.. some have said to wear a berka on my head, some have said they find it disrespecful.

Im not worried about the roads to be honest.. as we wont be doing it alone.. we will go with tours.. as i feel it would be safer this way.. im assuming it would be safer by tours?

i guess my main cocern is terrorism and being kidnapped. =\

I've also been told to keep away from the Nile, as its very dangerous. Reply to this

3 years ago, January 2nd 2011 No: 6 Msg: #125686  
The bombing was in Alexandrina, which is a few hours away from Cairo by road or train, so standard Egypt tours don't go there.

As I mentioned before I am quite wary of the warnings put out by the Australian government, I believe they overstate the dangers on a regular basis. As a comparison, have a read of the Egypt travel advisories by the New Zealand Government and the UK Government - these latter two are much more realistic in their appraisal. The NZ site has Egypt as "some risk" and UK reports that "1,346,724 British Nationals visited Egypt in 2009 (Source: Egyptian Ministry of Tourism). Most visits are trouble-free. 472 British nationals required consular assistance in Egypt in the period 01 April 2009 - 31 March 2010 for the following types of incident: 71 deaths; 235 hospitalisations; 35 and arrests, for a variety of offences and 27 rapes/sexual assaults." I would guess that the 71 deaths would be related to natural causes or vehicle accidents. If you add deaths, hospitalisation and rapes/sexual assaults the total of 333 represents 0.0248% of travellers - 1 case for every 4044 visitors.

There are two ways you reduce your chance of being the one case in every 4044. Firstly, dress modestly. There is no need to wear a head scarf in Egypt, it is a liberal society. You will see most young women in Cairo wearing modern clothes such as jeans and other fashionable items you are used to seeing in Australia. The only time you will need a head scarf is in a mosque. Most important is a rule that applies equally to men and women - and that is to cover as much as possible. Absolutely no shorts, short dresses, skimpy tops, anything that shows a lot of skin. As a male I always (and I do mean always) wore light long pants and long shirts, for a female you should ensure that your pants/skirts reach your ankles and tops/shirts to near your elbows (this does not apply to beach resorts of course).

Now I'm going to put on my parent's hat here (even though I am not a parent) but the big danger for young Australians travelling is alcohol. You are not in a familiar environment, so your drinking should be modest, being drunk in this environment is risky. This is especially important if you are with people you do not know very well as being "isolated" when drunk is a recipe for disaster. The Australian media always pops us stories of young Australians meeting a premature end after a night of heavy drinking (think of Britt Lapthorne and Scott McKay) and this is a far greater threat than any terrorism. In fact this rule applies anywhere in the world. I'll take my parent's hat off now ;-)

As for your time in Egypt, you need at the very least a week, but 1.5-2 weeks is even better. Cairo with the Egyptian Museum and nearby Pyramids at Giza and Saqqara will keep you occupied for a few days, and the area around Luxor demands almost week, with the Aswan region a couple more days. Egypt is one of the most amazing countries you will ever see, so it deserves your time. Reply to this

3 years ago, January 2nd 2011 No: 7 Msg: #125698  
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Thank you for your reply.

I actually didn't know there was a bombing in Alexandrina?.. I've just been told that Jordan, and all around them places it's unsafe 24/7 as to somewere like, America.

It wouldn't suprise me about the Australian Government over exagerating!! .. i remember researching and Australia on a scale 1-5 was 2 in danger wise/terrorism.. like 2 australia?.. i know 2 is still very low.. but what the?.. i would have thought Australia would have been a 0 or 1!!!

I dress modest anyways, im not a dress, skirt, or tank top person. More of a cargos, and jumpers/jackets person.. so hopefully i wont have any problems with that, and im also not a drink.. its been over a year since i was even drunk! I dont really wanna travel and go partyying anyways as i have heard of so many sad stories about things that have happened.. and frankly theres so much more to do.

I do beleive you when you say 2 weeks is ample time for travelling. and these so much to see, i guess i was only going to pop over for 2-3 days maybe because i was worried id get bombed or something. Do you know how far exactly egypt is from Iraq?

Maybe ill look into some tours and stuff.. i really wanna go.. and dont wanna not go just because of something that can happen. Reply to this

3 years ago, January 2nd 2011 No: 8 Msg: #125706  
I'm not sure of distance from Iraq from Egypt, but Jordan is inbetween the two countries - looking on Google Maps, I think from the Egypt border to the Iraq border is about 400km, and then another 500km to Baghdad.

I was in Jordan within 200km of the Iraq border only a couple of months before the 2003 invasion led by President Bush and Co, and I found a bit of tension in the air there, but nothing in terms of personal danger.

Well, it appears that your approach to travel will minimise most issues. The best idea of the current situation is going to come from blogs of people there now and you'll see that the greatest hassles people usually have in Egypt is from pushy sellers, hawkers and eating the wrong food.

I've enjoyed reading the blogs of rrruss who is there as I write this, the following blogs give you an idea of what to expect in Egypt:
Cairo – Coptic churches and the night train to Aswan
Aswan – Temples, Tombs and Feluccas Reply to this

3 years ago, January 2nd 2011 No: 9 Msg: #125709  
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Thanks for all your help! :)

I've come across a tour site called top deck! and ive found an awesome 8 day tour for only $475 per person! it includes the tour bus, and all the brekkie, lunch, and dinners, as well as all the accomidation and the overnight stays on the trains first class, with a tour guide at all times! Doesnt include entry into place, but i still think thats a good price? The tour highlights are;

CAIRO: Visit the Egyptian Museum containing the treasures of King Tutankhamun & see the Great Pyramid of Giza

ASWAN: Felucca sailing around the Elephantine & Kitchener Islands. View the Aga Khan Mausoleum & the Tombs of the Nobles. Nubian Village .

LUXOR: Visit the Temple of Karnak (option), the gold & silver markets & the Valley of the Kings

ABU SIMBEL: Visit the temple built by Ramesses II & the Temple of Hathor


Seems they are the essentials! only thing im so so about is the sailing.. :\ but the other tours all included sinai, and i really dont wanna go there, so i guess i can give the sailing a go!
Not sure if thats all the main essentials, but ill def check out peoples blogs and see what they have written about it, and the good and bad stuff... :)

thanks! Reply to this

3 years ago, March 10th 2011 No: 10 Msg: #130772  
Egypt 25th January revolution


Barak Obama, “We should raise our Children to be like the Egyptian Youth”

The American President Barack Obama

The American President Barack Obama

Silvio Berlusconi, The prime minister of Italy said” Nothing new about Egypt, The Egyptian just created the history as usual”
Italian Prime Minister, Silvio Berlusconi

Italy Prime Minister, Silvio Berlusconi

Jens Stoltenberg, Norway Prime Minister said “Today, We all are Egyptians”

Norway Prime Minister, Jens Stoltenberg

Norway Prime Minister, Jens Stoltenberg

Heinz Fischer, President of Austria said “The Egyptian people are the greatest in the world and deserves the Nobel prize for peace”

Austria President, Heinz Fischer

Austria President, Heinz Fischer

David Cameron, The British prime minister said” We should teach the Egyptian revolution in our schools”

The British Prime Minister, David Cameron

The British Prime Minister, David Cameron

CNN, One of the major TV News Channels “For the first time in history we witness people revolute and clean the streets afterwards”

CNN

CNN

The Egyptian spirit and pride now back to life after years of internal unrest and dissatisfaction of the situation in Egypt, the light is back to cover the new land of Egypt, A land of dignity and satisfaction. Egypt, A new era has begun


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On the 25th January 2011 the whole of Egypt was taken by surprise; the young and the old, the rich and the poor, the civilian and the army and most of all President Hosni Mubarak. Nobody could have really believed that such protests would have gathered such strength. However, the demonstrations, which then became the revolution, was started by the Egyptian youth after several years of protesting on social networks like Facebook and Twitter. Throughout the previous years there were small demonstrations, but especially after the most recent fake parliament elections it was obvious that corruption had increased and the protest groups became larger , exploded on 25th January as revolution all over Egypt It was time to make change happen rather than hope for it.

So, the only way the voice of the youth could be heard was through social media – the form of media that could not be controlled by anyone – least of all Hosni Mubarak. Of course,

Egyptians everywhere were demanding more freedom, the removal of corruption and bribery from the core of all government departments, the change of the regime of the country which included Mubarak to step down and the removal of the Minister of Interior specifically because of the arrests and detaining of political people. We demanded that the Emergency Law be cancelled so that the police no longer have the power to just arrest anyone they choose for any reason they choose. This demand was met after a few days of protests. Once the protestors realised that their demands could really be met and their voices really were heard there was no stopping them and the protests became greater in number and in power. The youth asked for so much and got it. This year the heavens opened and they got more than they could ever have dreamed possible.

Little did people all over Egypt know that the things they were hoping for were about to come true. Little did the world know that hope and despair, frustration and anger, purpose and destiny were all boiling in the pot together and that on the 25th January the pot would boil over and spill out onto the streets for the whole world to see.

This has created a new face of Egypt. A face, which shows expression rather than hides it. A face that smiles from deep within at the changes and what this will mean for our children and our children’s children. A face with eyes that sparkle with hope and gladness. A face, which can look to see what changes are needed and can now speak for those changes to come into place with a voice which speaks on behalf of those who have no voice. The old face of Egypt showed powerlessness, poverty for many and despair that their country would never change so that they might enjoy the freedoms that many other countries enjoy. The changing face of Egypt was like a woman giving birth: painful, messy, long and tiring and sadly with much spilt blood. But the baby was born – the future Egypt has arrived. A new era has dawned.

So what has been achieved at the beginning of this new era?

After 15 days of continuous protests every where in Egypt On the 11th Feb 2011President Hosni Mubarak Resigned and Passed Power to the army, all requested were met, he has changed all the ministers in his Cabinet and the constitution has been changed so that anyone can choose to stand for election. Justice has also been served on the Minister of Interior and all the other corrupted ministers who are now facing court proceedings. There have also been many other political reforms, for example: Egyptian parliament will be re-elected in a free election with international control – without this protest Egypt would have stood under the dark clouds of control for maybe another 30 years and more. Changes made in Egypt through the original youth protests have also secured democracy for people across the whole of the Middle East: similar constitutional changes have happened in China, Jordan and Yemen. Syria and Bahrain have also started demonstrating to achieve what Egyptians all across the land have achieved in 2 weeks.

With this protest, Egypt will become, and already is, a so democratic society where the voices of the people determine what Egypt will be and will become again. The strength of the Ancient civilisation has risen again like a phoenix from the ashes. Egypt will take it’s right position in the world now – no longer will we be held back.

So, we invite you today not only to a land of Ancient Civilisation with Pharaohs, tombs and pyramids but also to a land of Egyptian youth, freedom and democracy where you can feel the heartbeat of the people which beats to a new sound – the sound of freedom.

The whole of Egypt welcomes you to visit us again and let our face see you. Let us smile on you with gladness. Let our eyes see you again. Let us show you the changes that we see which are not shown on the television. Let us show you the past, the present and the future of our country. Let us welcome you as we did before. Our face has changed and our heart remains the same.

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23 months ago, May 5th 2012 No: 11 Msg: #155764  
hello how are you i will advice you just one advice that egypte in this time is not the safe place to travel .you dont see in the tv that there is a rebilion there .
i advice you to chose thar safe country .
and about the weather time in this in all the big sahara is hote wth a lot wind .
good travel Reply to this

16 months ago, December 15th 2012 No: 12 Msg: #164320  
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Hello

Dear all

My name is Yehia from Egypt and i say to you its not safe to travel to Egypt at this time as we have bad situation and bad things happened in Egypt don't think to travel at Egypt at this time and you can read from news what happened there and you can back to Ministry of Foreign Affairs

i hope i have advice you

Thanks
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15 months ago, December 31st 2012 No: 13 Msg: #164802  
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hi i know this is very late reply but excuse me ,,,, i'm from egypt by the way and i'm very happy that u love my country specially about the pyramids ,,if u plan to come again go ahead i know that u hear from the news about egypt and the mess of the economics the muslim brother hoods beside the safety but i recommend to stay close to ur group , inform the people in the hotel where is ur place just in case , and i'm sure nothing will happen to u ,,, plz forget about iraq we r nothing like it and we r not close to it either ,thx sweety please any questions send me
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15 months ago, January 2nd 2013 No: 14 Msg: #164845  
I was in Egypt from Dec 3 to Dec 17 and did not feel threatened in the least. And I had to walk through Tahrir Square on a Friday evening when protests can get out of hand after Friday prayers. I was in Cairo during the first weekend of voting on the new
Constitution. Everything was fine and I had to walk through/near Tahrir several other times during my 3 or 4 days in Cairo. I tried not to make a habit of it though...

Like Shane mentioned, your biggest threat is from the road - crossing it (especially in Cairo) and riding on it in any form of transport. Easily the scariest moment (or 5 hours) of my current 8 month trip was in a minibus ride from Bahariya Oasis to Cairo. Driving standards are appalling.

Hope that helps. Reply to this

9 months ago, July 15th 2013 No: 15 Msg: #172912  
Egypt is very safe to visit and the police, tourist police and army are in prominence wherever you go, giving you a feel of being in secure surroundings. Egypt prides itself on its high safety record for tourists and will do all it can to maintain this.
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