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My Visa scenario.

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I know many visa questions are asked,but you're views are very appreciated.
Andrew Wilde
Big Andy
Andrew Wilde
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Hi all.

Im sat here in the north of England looking at the Thai Consulate Website in Hull.
My travel intentions are to head over to Thailand in November (with my one way ticket now booked) Il be landing in Bagkok.
I have time on my hands as Im very fortunate to escape the credit crunch in the UK and be out the country for the next 12 months or possibly even more,so when planning my trip as I go Im not going to feel in a rush to see as many sights as possiable and rush back home.
But heres what I have found.
As we all know. . . . . some sort of visa is required to enter Thailand weather it be a visa upon arrival,single border entry or multiple border entry and so on.
My plan was to spend my first 6 months in Thailand (with a 3 border crossing visa sorted before I go) but when reading on the Consulate website Im getting rather confused.
Looking at the standard visa application pack it says. . . .
"b)
With a TWO or THREE entry Tourist Visa you must ensure you enter Thailand on your final visit
before expiry of the visa which is 6 months from date of issue.

It tells me that nobody is able to stay in Thailand for longer than 60 days at a time as you are asked upon arrival weather you would like to stay for a 30 day stay or a 60 day stay,I understand that and for this simple border runs can be done.

"If you have a visa with more than one entry and wish to stay in Thailand for a further 60 (or 30) days it is necessary to visit a Thai Immigration Border Control Office about 2-3 days before the stay expires, exit Thailand into neighbouring country and immediately re-enter to activate your next 60 (or 30) days. You can keep doing this until you have used all your entries provided this is done within the validity of the visa."

Is this the only way that is possiable to stay for 6 months?

In my case I would like to see (not in order) Cambodia,Laos,Vietnam,Malasia and possibly Indonesia after I have spent my 6 months in Thailand.But as I read on down the "General Visa Rules section" for what was required.
I saw this. . . .


a) Purpose of visit is strictly tourism.

b) Must be in possession of a confirmed flight ticket (e-ticket acceptable) to show they will be flying out of Thailand within 30 days or 15 days of entry, as appropriate. Open tickets do not qualify. Travelling overland out of Thailand by train, bus, etc to Cambodia, Laos, Malaysia (including en route to Singapore), Myanmar (Burma), etc is not accepted as proof of exiting Thailand.
You may be asked to show your flight ticket on entering Thailand. If you do not possess a flight ticket to show you will be exiting Thailand within 30 or 15 days of entry you are likely to be refused entry and may not even be allowed to check in for your flight at your departing airport.


So does this mean there is no way of being able to stay in Asia after my 6 month stay in Thailnad?
Or is it just a case of not bothering in getting a 6 month multiple border crossing visa and just get a visa upon arrival? Would I end up after paying my visa money in the uk having to pay for each time I want to get back into Thailand anyway to the border imigration?

I hope Iv explained well enough what Im having a bit of trouble with if not then dont hesitate to ask.

Iv just seen now some more rules about one way flights. . . .

"Please note that under Thailand’s immigration rules it is allowed for a foreigner to fly to Thailand on a one-way ticket only if they are in
possession of a valid visa which they can present when they check-in
for their flight to Thailand.

Without such a visa the traveller will not be allowed to board their flight
to Thailand with a one-way ticket.

Please also note that some flight operators may be reluctant to accept
a traveller to Thailand with a one-way ticket even if they are in
possession of a valid visa. This may be something to do with rules
or regulations imposed by the flight operator. Accordingly, we advise
all travellers to check this with their airway carrier (not travel agent) well
in advance of travelling to avoid last minute complications.

Have I compleatly cocked this up or what?

How does everyone else go about this?

Im lost.

Any info from anyone will be GREATLY appreciated

Thanks
[Edited: 17:17 - Big Andy ]
Andrew Wilde
Big Andy
Andrew Wilde
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Im a UK citizen by the way :-)
Kris and Kate
Rat on the Road
Kris and Kate
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Hi

Ok, this is always pretty confusing. But as far as I'm aware...

The onward ticket is only required if you are entering Thailand with a visa on entry. Basically those folk going in for a holiday for 2 weeks or whatever, with a return ticket to their home country, can get a 30 day stamp free at the airport.

Otherwise you need to have a visa stuck into your passport. If you have this you don't need an onward ticket. We've done this twice. Once with a year B multiple entry visa and once with a 60 day tourist visa.

You can buy a tourist visa for one entry or 2-3 entry. Each entry is for a maximum of 60 days. So you go into Thailand, stay 60 days, go out again, return, stay 60 days, go out again, return, stay 60 days. 3 * 60 days is about 6 months, is it not?

If you can enter Thailand on a visa on arrival you can also do border runs. Each border run overland will give you 15 days more. Each one by flying will give you 30 days more.

It's not usually immigration that give you hassle about entering with a visa on arrival without an onward ticket. The airlines in the UK check your passport and will refuse to let you on the plane. We had this checked both times we flew to Thailand from Manchester Airport.

Is there any reason why you want to stay in Thailand for a full 6 months before seeing any other country? Because you could use your visa runs on your multiple entry visa to see some of the other countries. Bearing in mind that to do a visa run to Cambodia or Laos you will need to buy a visa for those countries. You could visit Cambodia after the first 2 months in Thailand, then go back to Thailand, then after 60 days visit Laos. And so on.......

Anyway, hope this helps.

Kate




Andrew Wilde
Big Andy
Andrew Wilde
Post Count: 14
Thanks for you're help.

With what you said about staying in Thailand for a solid 6 months,it stated on the Website that you're final entry to Thailand (having a 2-3 visa entry) that you need to be within there country before 6 months from when the Visa was first issued.Hence why I thaught to get as much time as I can to use all the 60 days (3 times) in Thailand rather than see other countries while my visa time was tickin down.

Il ask more question later,Iv got to rush to work ha

Thanks for you're reply thaugh :-)
Kris and Kate
Rat on the Road
Kris and Kate
Post Count: 412
When we had a B multiple entry visa, our last entry could be the last day that the visa was valid. We could enter on that day and get another stamp. If it's the same, then if you enter Thailand on your third entry on the last day of your 6 months, you would get a 60 day stamp.

Does that sound right?

But you may be right about spending the full 6 months in the country. Are you just planning to travel?
Andrew Wilde
Big Andy
Andrew Wilde
Post Count: 14
Just travel yea. Im fortunate to not have to work too so alls good.
Yea thats right about getting a 60 day stamp near to my last days of the 6 months from when the visa starts.:-)

I was talking to someone who I met today that is heading back to Thailand as it happends in a few weeks.they said that I should go to the Thai Consulate in Hull in person (I was planning on doing so) and apply for a catagory 'O' multiple border crossing visa that lasts for 12 months.
He said with this visa you are permitted to stay in the country for 90 days at a time so border runs dont have to be as frequent and you have as many border crossings as you like to see whichever neighbouring country I wish.
Would I be elegiable for this kind of visa?
I have just had a quick look at the Consulate website and it shows that this Cat 'O' visa is for extended stays,to visit friends/family.
All looks quite straight forward with this one. . . .but is it?
[Edited: 13:48 - Big Andy ]
Kris and Kate
Rat on the Road
Kris and Kate
Post Count: 412
It will depend on what supporting documentation you need for an O visa.

Although the consulates in the UK seem to be less strict that those in Asia....

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